Wednesday_Jack Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Both absolutely terrible...fox is beswetheric in disguise!! palmer is absolutely steeling a living...possibly the laziest full back I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray1867 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Palmer is average at best but Fox is absolutely abismal and to think he’s our only available LB makes me feel sick!!! We’ve got to start playing Reach there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride_of_the_road Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Think Reach will revert there once midfield are back. Palmer gets nod above hunt due to him being a midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Fox stood out yesterday amongst 2 terrible teams as by far the worst footballer on the pitch Nothing more needs to be said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Palmer was half decent yesterday where as fox is like 14 year old playing in a men's team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisCityIsOurs88 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Palmer needs to go this summer. Nowhere near good enough. People just like the idea that he came through our academy. Unfortunately he hasn’t progressed and never looks like he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) Never been a palmer fan, sometimes shows promise then we see his end product go half way into the kop ...hes had his chance for me and we need much much better but hes a back up at best for me. Fox is just mind boggling, how we thought this lad would be a decent signing is just staggering, charlton fans were all saying he was pretty dire in the league below, totally out of his depth here. We need a whole new defence and build from there. Edited February 11, 2018 by TaxiMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Both need to be replaced next season. Still need a new first choice CB also imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 whats with hunt? does jos clearly not rate him? palmer would struggle to get in most league 1 teams, whats happened to s clare? I would give him ago. I got a good view yesterday of our full backs ,and the system jos is playing our full backs are very important , play hunt and reach there , or maybe use boyd as a wing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 To spend £500K on a league 1 player as backup, is on the face of it seemingly good business. Then you watch him play. He is genuinely awful - totally out of his depth and a liability. Palmer is like the guy who makes the tea at work - been there forever but no one knows what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 So we single out Palmer and Fox? They were all gash. Palmer wasn’t the worst. Joao stepped up a bit and was better, Wildsmith is class. The low ‘misskicks’ We’re him hitting the ball a few inches higher than normal as it was bobbling and didn’t want it to go over his foot. It’s a poor squad at the mo and if Rhodes doesn’t want to force his way into that team then we are in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Kidneys Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Credit where due to Palmer yesterday ... not nearly as bad as people are making out. Fox on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdial Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Playing wingback is tricky at time. i played there for 2 years at a good standard and the important thing is to get forward. You need to be up and down constantly for 90 minutes. Fox and Palmer aren’t doing this for me. They are getting too preoccupied by being defensive first, which is why we probably haven’t shipped many goals in January. Against a decent team of with a winger and attacking fullback you can get run around a bit as it’s easy to attack a wing back. This seems to be happening more of late which makes me think we need to either go back to 4-4-2 or change these two around. Hunt and Reach are made for this position in the attacking sense and I would give them a start in our next game if keeping this formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Palmer had a decent game yesterday. Were you there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Think these two are seriously letting this formation down. You want to play 3 at the back and narrow in midfield. Then your fullbacks/wingbacks have to be the best players on the pitch and more often then not our are usually the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Palmer long term isn’t good enough but he’s doing a decent enough job but fox awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Fox is only playing left/wing back because Jos has no alternative at present. Pudil is needed in central defence because of the absence of Lees, Van Aken and flu victim Loovens. Reach is needed in central midfield because of the absence of Bannan Lee and Hutchinson plus Butterfield another flu victim. Continually singling Fox out as scapegoat when there is no alternative will not help the team or him play better. Palmer on the other side is clearly Jos's choice with Hunt apparently fit again. It seems Jos prefers to stabilise defence by playing 5 at the back rather than 3-5-2 with proper wing backs. In that case Palmer is deemed better defensively than Hunt. With a reasonably fit squad I would fully expect to see 3-5-2 played in attacking fashion with Reach and Hunt playing wing back. Fox and Palmer as back up until our promising U23's can be introduced. Please lets leave off the negativity about these two until better is available.It really doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Blatter said: Fox is only playing left/wing back because Jos has no alternative at present. Pudil is needed in central defence because of the absence of Lees, Van Aken and flu victim Loovens. Reach is needed in central midfield because of the absence of Bannan Lee and Hutchinson plus Butterfield another flu victim. Continually singling Fox out as scapegoat when there is no alternative will not help the team or him play better. Palmer on the other side is clearly Jos's choice with Hunt apparently fit again. It seems Jos prefers to stabilise defence by playing 5 at the back rather than 3-5-2 with proper wing backs. In that case Palmer is deemed better defensively than Hunt. With a reasonably fit squad I would fully expect to see 3-5-2 played in attacking fashion with Reach and Hunt playing wing back. Fox and Palmer as back up until our promising U23's can be introduced. Please lets leave off the negativity about these two until better is available.It really doesn't help. Reach could have played wingback yesterday if he'd played Fox at centre half instead of Jones. Fox has done well this season when filling in at centre half. Jones could have played midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, whatdial said: Playing wingback is tricky at time. i played there for 2 years at a good standard and the important thing is to get forward. You need to be up and down constantly for 90 minutes. Fox and Palmer aren’t doing this for me. They are getting too preoccupied by being defensive first, which is why we probably haven’t shipped many goals in January. Against a decent team of with a winger and attacking fullback you can get run around a bit as it’s easy to attack a wing back. This seems to be happening more of late which makes me think we need to either go back to 4-4-2 or change these two around. Hunt and Reach are made for this position in the attacking sense and I would give them a start in our next game if keeping this formation. Sounds good but who would play in central midfield with Lee Bannan Hutchinson and probably Jones injured yesterday. Butterfield not training due to flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyowl Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 44 minutes ago, Wednesday_Jack said: Both absolutely terrible...fox is beswetheric in disguise!! palmer is absolutely steeling a living...possibly the laziest full back I have ever seen. I understand the drustration with Fox, but can’t for the life of me understand where you’re coming from with comments like that about Palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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