kobayashi Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, elyowl1 said: £20 million striker one minute , £2 striker two minutes later. A modern day Paulo Wanchope If he was half as good as Wanchope he'd be twice the player he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 For anyone not seen the pinned tread at the top of the matchday forum It's a worthy appeal and we only need a few hundred quid more come on dig deep lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, One De Bilde said: OK I will give you that and Arsenal two years ago before you bring that up. Quality and consistency are not Joao's friends Forrest away ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 The lad has natural ability but has been overlooked for long periods. This will have done neither his development or his confidence any good. Jos can see this and if anyone can get the lad firing he can, he has many positive attributes. Agree with others he needs to work on his mental game as much as anything else if he wants to make the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One De Bilde Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Forrest away ? Not sure, he was alright at Forest though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 No idea... Has put in two very good performances recently against Dem Blades and Cardiff. He's bulked up a fair bit and is holding the ball up really well. Biggest problem with Lucas is I'm not always convinced he knows exactly what he's doing, but I suppose that means he brings a bit of a spark which others lack. Got to work on that finishing though (he's not the only one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, Rhubarb n Custard said: The lad has natural ability but has been overlooked for long periods. This will have done neither his development or his confidence any good. Jos can see this and if anyone can get the lad firing he can, he has many positive attributes. Agree with others he needs to work on his mental game as much as anything else if he wants to make the grade. I don't think he's been overlooked, I think he went off the rails, he started to think he was something special when he was just a kid with the potential to be something special. He got above himself, then he got the tooth knocked out, he was devastated by it, not the reaction of a warrior. During that period he just wasn't good enough compared to the other strikers we had. All credit to him he seems to be finding his way again . I hope he continues to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, Rhubarb n Custard said: The lad has natural ability but has been overlooked for long periods. This will have done neither his development or his confidence any good. Jos can see this and if anyone can get the lad firing he can, he has many positive attributes. Agree with others he needs to work on his mental game as much as anything else if he wants to make the grade. I know I've said this before but I don't think developing players was in his head I think man management is a big failing of Carlos the way matias and joao have suddenly become available makes you wonder if they were 'rats' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Cleaning lady said he could be good. The kiosk lass from the North Stand said he’s ok when he’s not tired. Our new CEO said he’s bloody fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, One De Bilde said: OK I will give you that and Arsenal two years ago before you bring that up. Quality and consistency are not Joao's friends last 2 games all that's been missing is a goal so lets hope that comes Friday or next Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, prowl said: I don't think he's been overlooked, I think he went off the rails, he started to think he was something special when he was just a kid with the potential to be something special. He got above himself, then he got the tooth knocked out, he was devastated by it, not the reaction of a warrior. During that period he just wasn't good enough compared to the other strikers we had. All credit to him he seems to be finding his way again . I hope he continues to improve. You're probably right about not being overlooked, I guess he's only getting a chance to start now because just about every other forward we have is on the treatment table. His best work has always been off the bench as an impact player. Maybe that's his strength ? I wouldn't be disappointed if he turned into a version of Ole Gunar Sjölskaer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I wouldn't be pinning our hopes on a striker who's only scored 15 goals in a 106 games at a decent level ......yes he's scored the odd good goal but his finishing is generally poor , his hold up play isn't the best , he's not that strong in the air , and he's not the bravest centre forward I've seen .....he's pacey and that's about it imo . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, torryowl said: I wouldn't be pinning our hopes on a striker who's only scored 15 goals in a 106 games at a decent level ......yes he's scored the odd good goal but his finishing is generally poor , his hold up play isn't the best , he's not that strong in the air , and he's not the bravest centre forward I've seen ..... Apart from that he's alright. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Fuzzy logics said: Don't want to be too negative about any player but there's a reason Lucas is our 4th/5th choice Striker. Mainly his 1/6 strike ratio for us..... 18 month left on his contract and if he develops as much in that time as he has in the past 2 1/2 years I can't see it being renewed. The reason he became 4/5th choice striker is because he fell off Carlos's list of favourites. David Hirst was kept out of our first team by Colin West. I'm glad everybody here now has a clean slate and these decisions will be made objectively by someone unfamiliar with these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Time for him to be given a fair chance just like any of our other strikers. Without Hooper we don’t score goals so someone is going to have to step up to the plate. I’m afraid there can be no more excuses for any of the strikers as we need goals from them - any of them. 4 very good chances last Saturday, we have got to score at least one of them and that’s being extremely lenient as you couldn’t really wish for better opportunities. I know it’s hard to tell from the little time they spent together on the pitch but it did look like João and Matias operated on the same wavelength. Just after Matias came on there was a lovely little passage of play between the two of them that lead to Matias almost being one on one with the keeper. I’ve haven’t seen too many examples of our two strikers successfully linking up this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, Rhubarb n Custard said: You're probably right about not being overlooked, I guess he's only getting a chance to start now because just about every other forward we have is on the treatment table. His best work has always been off the bench as an impact player. Maybe that's his strength ? I wouldn't be disappointed if he turned into a version of Ole Gunar Sjölskaer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 We can't talk about potential, that's ridiculous for a player his age. We can discuss whether he can improve his attitude, decision making and team play, and if he does that he will be a very useful striker at this level. His pace and confidence have seen him get to here, if he wants to go further he can and maybe play for his country again. Its entirely up to Joao and how hard he wants to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, The Dukeries Owl said: The reason he became 4/5th choice striker is because he fell off Carlos's list of favourites. David Hirst was kept out of our first team by Colin West. I'm glad everybody here now has a clean slate and these decisions will be made objectively by someone unfamiliar with these players. With the greatest respect....he went for almost a year without scoring a goal. That’s why he became 4th/5th choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Maybe he can become the new Drogba or Ferdinand. Both exploded after 25.... Or maybe he won't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One De Bilde Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, coopswfc76 said: last 2 games all that's been missing is a goal so lets hope that comes Friday or next Tuesday. I really hope so because Rhodes is far more than a yard off the pace. It has never been more clear how important Hooper is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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