SiJ Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Well, he's not coming back this season... Best bit is when he ends up having to come back here after helping Derby secure promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 28 minutes ago, theowlsman said: How do you get into a position where you can only get your player back if some other club agrees? FFS. Ask Edward Heath he started this mess Or was it Wilson ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Cosby Blunkett said: Derby Telegraph has better knowledge of loan arrangement than man in charge of Sheffield Wednesday first team. Hangs head. It beggars belief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Completely unfair on Bullen - the guy was asked on the spot about it, clearly the club wasn't planning on bringing him back anytime soon for obvious reasons (he's never coming back - lets face it) and clearly Bullen also didn't have Google on hand to look into the situation. Frankly, as a caretaker manager its not his job to know either - I'm sure the club knew the deal they signed at the time. I'm all for having a moan on here, but at least guide your moans in the right direction and to the right people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, SiJ said: Best bit is when he ends up having to come back here after helping Derby secure promotion At least we'll have a top valued striker to sell then... to make up for the low fees we'll get for our other dead weights that have to be replaced to overhaul our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 The first note on the new CEO's desk should be 'have a look at the Winnal loan contract. Second note, take over preparing all contracts to make sure they are of benefit to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkstone Owl Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 If the agreement has to be mutual involving both Winnall and Butterfield that makes it even more complicated Still doesn’t absolve the club of not knowing the crack with whether we could recall him.....just makes me feel more sorry for LB being put in that position when the question being asked was rather obvious, given his goals for Derby. Im still not sure what Winnall would actually do for us given we don’t play particularly to his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I think we should recall Winnall and send Butterfield back. Squad needs freshening up big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Animal said: Great, but why would winnal want to leave after find his scoring form again? My guess is he'd only come back if he got the service he needs. Not sure I want him back anyway, having a bust up at the training ground etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, davey_wells said: Completely unfair on Bullen - the guy was asked on the spot about it, clearly the club wasn't planning on bringing him back anytime soon for obvious reasons (he's never coming back - lets face it) and clearly Bullen also didn't have Google on hand to look into the situation. Frankly, as a caretaker manager its not his job to know either - I'm sure the club knew the deal they signed at the time. I'm all for having a moan on here, but at least guide your moans in the right direction and to the right people. 100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I agree we should get Winnall back as soon as possible I mean he's going to score 4 goals in his first game back then another 2 in the next two games. Isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, HelloThere said: We actually wanted him to do well for you guys so we didn't have to have him back! Maybe that's how we convince Derby to say yes, we keep Butterfield. In all seriousness though, it's an absolute joke that we can't recall our own player. Sums the clubs current ownership up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, SiJ said: Well, he's not coming back this season... Best bit is when he ends up having to come back here after helping Derby secure promotion Under a new manager he may get first team starts though. Who would you think Karanka would play for example if it was him, Rhodes or Winnall? Saying that though, who'd be easier to flog this January/in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I bet we can not send Butterfield backeither. Think this clarifies role Bullen had which was mascot, and definitely means a coach is required oh so urgently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 That Bullen doesn't know specific loan details shows what a shambles we are. Let's hope Derby lose 7 midfielders and then want Butters back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 He was the most inform striker we had given his Barnsley record. Should have built on his confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Quist said: I bet we can not send Butterfield backeither. Think this clarifies role Bullen had which was mascot, and definitely means a coach is required oh so urgently. Why would he know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Swap his loan for Rhodes so GR can get him scoring goals as well,sorted Edited January 2, 2018 by legendaryswan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 You are assistant first team coach at club and one of players leaves and you do not know terms of loan. if playing peripheral role you would not, but if actively involved would expect him to know. Whenyou take over you need to know what is available to you including players out on loan the fact he did not know and was trying to find out is poor should have had access to information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 How about a swap for Chris Martin ? Another Scot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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