TrickyTrev Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Minton said: He will go nowhere until the end of the season then as we will be due some sizeable compensation from the club that do sign him. There is a reason why clubs avoid tribunals at all costs... If it goes to a tribunal would we be able to insert a sell on clause though? In selling a youngster with real promise like Hirst, that's where the real money is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 3 hours ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: There's a surprise Sally talking garbage. You should have been with me last seasons LC at Cambridge, George still has a little way to go. So let him out on loan to help him develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) big step up from under 23's to first team status , no matter how good they are at that level many fail after the step up ,not saying George would but it happens Edited August 29, 2017 by trevdi9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 20 minutes ago, stanningtonowl said: So let him out on loan to help him develop. Why would we help him to develop if his intention is to bugger off at the end of the year...hence the club stance, sign a new contract and then we'll help you develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 3 hours ago, camffiti said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ian said: Why would we help him to develop if his intention is to bugger off at the end of the year...hence the club stance, sign a new contract and then we'll help you develop It sounds harsh but I suppose you can see the justification. Different from freezing McGugan or FF out who could do something to help the first team squad for example. Depends whether the treatment of him will harm our recruitment and/or retention of young talent. How do other clubs deal with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 His father made the wrong call around 25 years ago and I imagine the family have that in mind. If a big club really want him they will have him. And indeed if he were to turn out be as strong as some predict then clearly he will move on at some point. If he does go it is stating the obvious but the prime issue is our share of the next transfer fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 35 minutes ago, Ian said: Why would we help him to develop if his intention is to bugger off at the end of the year...hence the club stance, sign a new contract and then we'll help you develop He buggers off anyway if that's the case. Don't know if this is the clubs fault, George's or his Dad's? Bit of form though. Didn't Lavery go the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 when do the school holidays end again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastleigh Owl Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Surely letting him go out on loan would increase the composition due if/when he improves or doesn't it work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 We wouldn't get much via tribunal as it stands. It would help us immensely to get him out on loan either way. Unless there is cash on the table now with a decent sell on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Eastleigh Owl said: Surely letting him go out on loan would increase the composition due if/when he improves or doesn't it work like that. It does as career appearances and goals prove value. Wednesday will need to set an asking price and demonstrate how that is reached against comparable cases. If a settlement isn't reached should he leave then tribunal will probably settle somewhere in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastleigh Owl Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Bluesteel said: It does as career appearances and goals prove value. Wednesday will need to set an asking price and demonstrate how that is reached against comparable cases. If a settlement isn't reached should he leave then tribunal will probably settle somewhere in the middle. So, if we can't agree terms with him, which now looks likely that we won't we may as well send him out on loan if we can't get a reasonable price for him or we'd be cutting our nose off so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, SiJ said: What can the club realistically do? If there are Premier League offers on the table then we have little to no chance of keeping him. As we've seen with our neighbors in recent times, if you have a half decent prospect they'll likely be picked up before barely making a first team appearance. It's incredibly frustrating, but then everything is so skewed in favor of Premier League clubs, allowing them to stock pile the best talent (even if they have little intention of having them actually break through). He has been linked with Leicester a lot, hasn't he? Well, I remember them signing that young kid from Birmingham a few years back (who was a regular of sorts for them), Demari Gray. Think he barely ever starts for them and has recently been linked with a move to Bournemouth. Demari Gray does feature quite a bit to be fair, and is pretty good when he does. Will probably be called up to the England squad within a couple of years I think. Probably says more about the current crop of English players than his ability however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, Eastleigh Owl said: So, if we can't agree terms with him, which now looks likely that we won't we may as well send him out on loan if we can't get a reasonable price for him or we'd be cutting our nose off so to speak. Thats my understanding yes, as long as we have offered him an improved deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 5 hours ago, Royal_D said: Even harder when it's his old man that wants him out of the club Unsurprising when Nuihu keeps getting the nod ahead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiejohn Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 hour ago, thewookieisdown said: His father made the wrong call around 25 years ago and I imagine the family have that in mind. If a big club really want him they will have him. And indeed if he were to turn out be as strong as some predict then clearly he will move on at some point. If he does go it is stating the obvious but the prime issue is our share of the next transfer fee Massive difference in the scenarios. David was an experienced player coming of the back of a few hugely successful seasons and making his international debut who was subject of a British record bid from the biggest club in the country and he would have been playing for the first team. George is a young lad who has next to no first team experience who is coming off fantastic achievements for club and country at youth level who is subject of bids where he will swap one youth set up for another the truth is this has nothing to do with hirst sr not going to man u and regretting it it's about the young lads future which may be better served signing here and going out on loan rather than getting lost in a premier league teams academy at the end of the day his name may be a hindrance but is also a huge plus at Wednesday it wouldn't be elsewhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The love in with Hirst on here is crazy. I trust CC and his boys if they don't think Hirst is ready, and he has a hell of a lot of competition (Rhodes with the best goals to games ratio in the league can't even start for us). My money is he'll be touted as a hot prospect and then disappear into the abyss of the lower leagues within the next five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 hours ago, JUNNY said: If you know me which you clearly dont i have wednesday till i die tattoo on my arm and that big of a supporter i would be prepared to meet you on a matchday for 1 minute just to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Does no one else see the irony in posters moaning about us not developing him, and then talking about how much of a hot property he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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