BIG D Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamalute Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 If he is not dismissed today it is because Chansiri is short of cash. I will be honest when folks said he was skint I did not believe it. However the high prices of tickets and merchandise, the various multi year season ticket offers. The Moore fiasco around wages (chansiri was right here it was about money he did not want to pay him a reasonable wage for job). All designed to increase revenue. Then a manager who had red flags waving all around him was obviously recruited on cheap. Then bargain basement recruitment of players. It all points to Chansiri wanting cash in and not much going out. Short term deals for players and staff it all adds up to club being run at a bargain basement level and supporters being squeezed for every last penny. Hence I think sticking point is getting rid will cost him and that is problem. With him not listening to offers for club it is strange. All other information available suggests he would be looking for investment which I think one group thought after negotiating with him and tested water. It is almost certain sale of tickets and merchandise will decline and this will no doubt cause him further woe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 When is the next international break? Shouldn't take long to make an appointment this time ... Only Y & Z remain in the Paxos filofax 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 He’ll get another game at least sadly. Oh well at least Hillsborough will have the chance to hear ‘Xisco Munoz, your football is sh!t’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne64 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Xisco new deal announced 5 Yr contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, lukeyswfc said: He won’t sack him, as he’ll have to admit he’s made a mistake and he won’t do that. This will drag on till closer to Christmas even if we have played 20 lost 17 won 0 Convinced this is the year he sticks us in and walks It's true that sacking him will be tantamount to admitting he's made a mistake. I don't think it'll drag on until Christmas though. At the end of the day he's a businessman (of sorts) and those instincts will kick in and supersede the difficulty of him losing face. It's a very hard period for him though. My issue is that sometimes he gets the appointments right - Carvahal, Bruce & Moore (not his fault Bruce left); but more often than not the appointments have turned out poor (Monk, Lukuhay, Pulis, Xisco). What he needs is an experienced head to run the club for him. Started watching Welcome to Wrexham last night and was struck how one of their first changes was to appoint Shaun Harvey as advisor to the Board. Harvey's cv includes chief executive of Leeds United & chief executive of the EFL. An appointment like that would be the best step forward we could make imho. I'd be more confident off the back of that that we'd replace Xisco with a more suitable manager for the predicament we're in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 If he’s here on Friday it’s going to be cringeworthy and cruel. Maybe DC is going to put him through it so he resigns and so doesn’t qualify for compo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulOwl Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mamalute said: If he is not dismissed today it is because Chansiri is short of cash. I will be honest when folks said he was skint I did not believe it. However the high prices of tickets and merchandise, the various multi year season ticket offers. The Moore fiasco around wages (chansiri was right here it was about money he did not want to pay him a reasonable wage for job). All designed to increase revenue. Then a manager who had red flags waving all around him was obviously recruited on cheap. Then bargain basement recruitment of players. It all points to Chansiri wanting cash in and not much going out. Short term deals for players and staff it all adds up to club being run at a bargain basement level and supporters being squeezed for every last penny. Hence I think sticking point is getting rid will cost him and that is problem. With him not listening to offers for club it is strange. All other information available suggests he would be looking for investment which I think one group thought after negotiating with him and tested water. It is almost certain sale of tickets and merchandise will decline and this will no doubt cause him further woe. He should be giving his fcukin salary back to the club/fans.... the guys totally out of his depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysletyoudown Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mamalute said: If he is not dismissed today it is because Chansiri is short of cash. I will be honest when folks said he was skint I did not believe it. However the high prices of tickets and merchandise, the various multi year season ticket offers. The Moore fiasco around wages (chansiri was right here it was about money he did not want to pay him a reasonable wage for job). All designed to increase revenue. Then a manager who had red flags waving all around him was obviously recruited on cheap. Then bargain basement recruitment of players. It all points to Chansiri wanting cash in and not much going out. Short term deals for players and staff it all adds up to club being run at a bargain basement level and supporters being squeezed for every last penny. Hence I think sticking point is getting rid will cost him and that is problem. With him not listening to offers for club it is strange. All other information available suggests he would be looking for investment which I think one group thought after negotiating with him and tested water. It is almost certain sale of tickets and merchandise will decline and this will no doubt cause him further woe. You don't run a football club like this if funds aren't a problem......it's been quite clear for two/maybe three seasons the cash has dried up.,. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, HopefulOwl said: He should be giving his fcukin salary back to the club/fans.... the guys totally out of his depth The manager being the manager of the club managing our team is not the managers fault It's like employing a three year old to run a meat slicing machine 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeyswfc Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pulcinella said: It's true that sacking him will be tantamount to admitting he's made a mistake. I don't think it'll drag on until Christmas though. At the end of the day he's a businessman (of sorts) and those instincts will kick in and supersede the difficulty of him losing face. It's a very hard period for him though. My issue is that sometimes he gets the appointments right - Carvahal, Bruce & Moore (not his fault Bruce left); but more often than not the appointments have turned out poor (Monk, Lukuhay, Pulis, Xisco). What he needs is an experienced head to run the club for him. Started watching Welcome to Wrexham last night and was struck how one of their first changes was to appoint Shaun Harvey as advisor to the Board. Harvey's cv includes chief executive of Leeds United & chief executive of the EFL. An appointment like that would be the best step forward we could make imho. I'd be more confident off the back of that that we'd replace Xisco with a more suitable manager for the predicament we're in. He had such advisors at the start, then binned them off after 6 months thinking he knew better. His issue will always be his ego. He thinks it’s easy and him and Paxo will be the best. I think we’ve gone past ever hoping he gets it right. We just pray now that we stay up and he sells up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastowl Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Yellowbelly said: Maybe the club is lining up a replacement first so we can make a smooth transition into a new era. Yeah yeah I know Haha. You got any more where this came from, gave me a rare smile. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassetts Allsorts Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 DC's gone home, he's not due back until December I've heard so I've got a feeling Xisco has time to turn this around. Or he's waiting until 1am on Thursday to put the statement out in typical DC fashion. If he does sack him, he needs an instant replacement lined up. We can't be waiting 4+ weeks again to get somebody in the place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsleyowl1996 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 International break October , surely surely if he’s not gone by then that’s the perfect time to sack him and give a new fella few weeks . please note I 100% wouldn’t give him this long he should be gone already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Pulcinella said: Started watching Welcome to Wrexham last night and was struck how one of their first changes was to appoint Shaun Harvey as advisor to the Board. Harvey's cv includes chief executive of Leeds United & chief executive of the EFL. But...you have to have owners who are willing to admit they know nothing about football and appoint the best man possible 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 minute ago, daveyboy66 said: But...you have to have owners who are willing to admit they know nothing about football and appoint the best man possible It's a sad state of affairs when we can be confident to say Wrexham will be in the top division before we get back there. Last season i was telling my work colleagues that Wrexham will be above us in the next 2 seasons, they laughed as we were top two in league one at the time and Wrexham were in non league. I still feel confident. If only we had owners who employed people who knew what they were doing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, camffiti said: When is the next international break? Shouldn't take long to make an appointment this time ... Only Y & Z remain in the Paxos filofax "A big welcome back to Hillsborough, Mr Terry Yorath". 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 We all know DC is clueless. I suspect this will stumble along until Oct/Nov then he will be asking for money again and he will get rid. but he wont have a manager ready to come in like a competent chairman would no, we will then have 4 or 5 weeks of trying to do it on the cheap with Thompson in charge, we have seen it so many times before. You hope he learns from his mistakes, but each and every time he makes the same mistakes. We have 3 games to the next international break, we could bring in a new man giving him time to work with the team. We will be adrift and all but relegated by the time DC pulls his head out of his ...., And gets rid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: It's a sad state of affairs when we can be confident to say Wrexham will be in the top division before we get back there. Last season i was telling my work colleagues that Wrexham will be above us in the next 2 seasons, they laughed as we were top two in league one at the time and Wrexham were in non league. I still feel confident. If only we had owners who employed people who knew what they were doing. If only our Owner knew what he was doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Best time to get rid of the manager (for the chairman) is a week before the new early bird season tickets go on sale False hope sells season tickets = £££££ 7 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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