TodwickOwl Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Another one to get hit and rightly so - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/09/21/reading-set-points-deduction-breaching-efl-finance-rules/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wellbeaten-the-owl Posted September 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: Another one to get hit and rightly so - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/09/21/reading-set-points-deduction-breaching-efl-finance-rules/ It's not right so though is it? Just the inevitable consequence of a broken system that was only adopted in the first place because the EPL strong armed the EFL to adopt the rules that skew massively in protecting the status quo. Edited September 21, 2021 by wellbeaten-the-owl 31 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, wellbeaten-the-owl said: It's not right so though is it? Just the inevitable consequence of a broken system that was only adopted in the first place because the EPL strong armed the EFL to adopt the rules that skew massively in protecting the status quo. Agree. It's not right. As long as failure payments exist in the premier league, champ teams should be under no spending restrictions otherwise all it will do is create a revolving door for teams relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Probably right based on the rules but I'm getting bored of it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Meh, let teams spend what they bloody want 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Why are clubs getting the opportunity to negotiate their punishment with the EFL? Is this partly as a result of the EFL being heavy handed with our initial 12-point deduction which went down by 50% on appeal? Of course, by the time we got 6 points back we had already endured a summer of nobody worth their salt wanting to join a club on minus 12 points. Maybe it wouldn't have made much of a difference anyway, but maybe if we had originally been deducted 6 points before the start of the season we might have found 1 or 2 better players that could have earned us a few points more last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Just remember the clubs voted for FFP… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Tip of the iceberg. A month into the season and two already in trouble. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) That's so 2019....we were getting points deductions for overspending way before it was fashionable. Now everyone is copying us! (or maybe FFP isn't fit for purpose as many people suggested several years ago ) Edited September 21, 2021 by striker 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 The system needs a massive overhaul now. It just isn’t working. The gap between the premier league and the championship is becoming a joke. There is a big review of football finance coming up and I assume there will be big changes on the back of it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goose Posted September 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Meh, let teams spend what they bloody want I agree with this, but at the same time no debt should be left with the club. Every team must break even at the end of the year, so if an owner wants to put £5, 10, 20 million in they can, but the debts with them not the club. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) What a ridiculous set of circumstances, we could be left in a situation where just 1 relegation place is going to be decided on the pitch this season. I get the whole “don’t break FFP don’t get a deduction” but it’s just making the league table farcical, we could be left in a position where 4 Championship sides in the space of 3 seasons have been relegated due to points deduction. It just ruins the whole competition as a spectacle. Edited September 21, 2021 by TrickyTrev 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Joao's Tooth Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 It's a mockery when Teams willing to spend money in the Championship and below are punished but the top teams such as Man City can splash 100m on a player with no consequences. Limitations are needed throughout all of football, wage limits and transfer limits, a equal playing field, there shouldn't be a difference between Burnley and Man City just because of the income of the club but this has to start from the top downwards, not from the bottom up like they are trying. Problem is the premier league won't want it, the FA won't want it, they want English football to be the dominate force in world football they want the big TV deals and their product shown all over the globe. Sadly it's all down to money and the people at the top are making money selling a product. The gap between the Premier and Championship is ever growing, and all it's leading too is more money in the championship to go for broke to get to the big time because the money is astronomical. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: It's not right so though is it? Just the inevitable consequence of a broken system that was only adopted in the first place because the EPL strong armed the EFL to adopt the rules that skew massively in protecting the status quo. £40m wage bill in the Championship, rightly so I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 58 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: Another one to get hit and rightly so - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/09/21/reading-set-points-deduction-breaching-efl-finance-rules/ Paywall alert. What's the article say ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeadonowl Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Readings last accounts showed a wage to income ratio of 211%!!! UEFA guidelines for sustainability is 70% Combined losses of over £120m over the last 3 seasons. if anyone deserves a points deduction it’s Reading 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, Jack the Hat said: champ teams should be under no spending restrictions otherwise all it will do is create a revolving door for teams relegated. I need this one explaining to me I don't understand what you mean Are you saying spending restrictions force clubs to be spending more? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, yeadonowl said: Readings last accounts showed a wage to income ratio of 211%!!! UEFA guidelines for sustainability is 70% Combined losses of over £120m over the last 3 seasons. if anyone deserves a points deduction it’s Reading They had a wage bill of £40m in ONE YEAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensible Soccer Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, Goose said: I agree with this, but at the same time no debt should be left with the club. Every team must break even at the end of the year, so if an owner wants to put £5, 10, 20 million in they can, but the debts with them not the club. I agree to a point but it would need to go further… for me the wage bill must be less than the turnover of the club by some way. That way if the wealthy owner leaves the club can still support itself. we were crippled by more than just rediculous spending on transfer fees… the wages is what did for us in the end as it did when we fell out the Prem all those years ago. failure payments need to go though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: They had a wage bill of £40m in ONE YEAR. Who did they even have on their books that was costing them so much? I can see how us and Derby have got on the wrong side of FFP with fees and wages, but Reading don’t seem to have been that extravagant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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