tomhollywood Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 The EFL is a shambles. Why is the governing body of 3 of the top 4 leagues in our country so out of touch with the clubs and what is going on?! The fact that season after season we are seeing disputes going to court between clubs and the EFL is ridiculous. Yet the only thing the EFL can think to do is to dish out points deductions and skew the competition even more than it already is against the backdrop of parachute payments. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 57 minutes ago, OwlBiSeeinThi said: Wycombe might survive yet. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-efl-appeal-breaking-5395684 convenient this was released 2 days after the last league game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nero said: Ok, they broke the rules and deserve punishing. Like us. But why are formerly decent clubs like Derby Wednesday Birmingham Wolves etc etc 'cheating' in the first place? And why is this only ''cheating' when its in the Championship? They and we are trying to play against a rigged deck where teams like Bournemouth Watford etc can massively outspend them despite their poxy crowds. Or middling teams like Norwich and WBA raking in vast sums to go up and come down every year. Its all fkin pathetic. Or we have stupid foreign owners who just want to make billions in the Premiership. Competitive football would start with an end to parachutes being used for anything but existing costs and TV money going to the teams that people are actually paying to watch rather than the Prem landfill clubs like Burnley or Palace who get hundreds of millions to be fodder for the rich. Give it a rest. We had money to spend for the first time in a long time, and threw the opportunity away. Takes more than just money as our dearly beloved inept owner now knows. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: Could be they get relegated because of the breach, go into admin and start next season on -15 in L1 -24 possibly in the championship.....12 for P&S and another 12 for administration.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Doesn’t it have to be 6 games before the end of the season for a deduction to be imposed or have I made that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, billyblack said: Give it a rest. We had money to spend for the first time in a long time, and threw the opportunity away. Takes more than just money as our dearly beloved inept owner now knows. We didnt have money mate. Thats the whole point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pOWLtergeist Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Nero said: Ok, they broke the rules and deserve punishing. Like us. But why are formerly decent clubs like Derby Wednesday Birmingham Wolves etc etc 'cheating' in the first place? And why is this only ''cheating' when its in the Championship? They and we are trying to play against a rigged deck where teams like Bournemouth Watford etc can massively outspend them despite their poxy crowds. Or middling teams like Norwich and WBA raking in vast sums to go up and come down every year. Its all fkin pathetic. Or we have stupid foreign owners who just want to make billions in the Premiership. Competitive football would start with an end to parachutes being used for anything but existing costs and TV money going to the teams that people are actually paying to watch rather than the Prem landfill clubs like Burnley or Palace who get hundreds of millions to be fodder for the rich. Does seem ridiculous, surely the powers that be can see this also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderly Owl Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, billyblack said: convenient this was released 2 days after the last league game A little too convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, tomhollywood said: hy is the governing body of 3 of the top 4 leagues in our country so out of touch with the clubs and what is going on?! The EFL are the clubs. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nero said: We didnt have money mate. Thats the whole point. In fairness I think we did, at least more than we'd had under Milan. We just completely failed to spend it in a way that kept us on the right side of the rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Nero said: Ok, they broke the rules and deserve punishing. Like us. But why are formerly decent clubs like Derby Wednesday Birmingham Wolves etc etc 'cheating' in the first place? And why is this only ''cheating' when its in the Championship? They and we are trying to play against a rigged deck where teams like Bournemouth Watford etc can massively outspend them despite their poxy crowds. Or middling teams like Norwich and WBA raking in vast sums to go up and come down every year. Its all fkin pathetic. Or we have stupid foreign owners who just want to make billions in the Premiership. Competitive football would start with an end to parachutes being used for anything but existing costs and TV money going to the teams that people are actually paying to watch rather than the Prem landfill clubs like Burnley or Palace who get hundreds of millions to be fodder for the rich. We lost to Huddersfield in the Play-offs, can you explain how the game was rigged in their favour? Sheff Utd likewise. Maybe explain how the game is currently rigged in the favour of Barnsley. Derby Wednesday Birmingham Wolves are not 'cheating'. They are cheating, you don't have to put it in quotation marks. It's accepted by SWFC and the majority of our fans that we are cheaters, because we were caught cheating, so we cheated. Not 'cheated'. Why did they cheat? Isn't it obvious? Because they want the EPL and all that comes with it (including the parachute payments). 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy W Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: Could be they get relegated because of the breach, go into admin and start next season on -15 in L1 That means we might finish second bottom next season then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Groundhopping Owl said: In fairness I think we did, at least more than we'd had under Milan. We just completely failed to spend it in a way that kept us on the right side of the rules. We spent about £60m more than the rules allow. We spent money we couldn't spend and tried to wangle our way out of it. Just like Derby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Manwë said: We lost to Huddersfield in the Play-offs, can you explain how the game was rigged in their favour? Sheff Utd likewise. Maybe explain how the game is currently rigged in the favour of Barnsley. Derby Wednesday Birmingham Wolves are not 'cheating'. They are cheating, you don't have to put it in quotation marks. It's accepted by SWFC and the majority of our fans that we are cheaters, because we were caught cheating, so we cheated. Not 'cheated'. Why did they cheat? Isn't it obvious? Because they want the EPL and all that comes with it (including the parachute payments). Sorry but these stupid rules should not exist. WE did not cheat our owner cheated and we are the ones who suffer. Its owners who are committing the offence, players and fans suffer.Its s joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Asio otus said: Sorry but these stupid rules should not exist. WE did not cheat our owner cheated and we are the ones who suffer. Its owners who are committing the offence, players and fans suffer.Its s joke. There are places where the rules do not exist. That place is called "Anywhere Outside the Football League". I've made the point before and I'm happy to make it again, but if you think rules are stupid and don't want them applied, then don't take part in the competition that has such rules. Wednesday could announce their resignation from the League today, and the stupid rules would no longer be applicable to us. Alternatively, lobby the Club (and other clubs) to amend the rules. But don't be surprised if the majority of clubs don't want the same thing as you. Either be in the tent weeing out, or be out of the tent weeing in the wind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Give it em now. We climb a place to 23rd then and Wycombe get another crack at the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth is out there Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Asio otus said: Sorry but these stupid rules should not exist. WE did not cheat our owner cheated and we are the ones who suffer. Its owners who are committing the offence, players and fans suffer.Its s joke. Forgive me but I don’t recall over much squealing about ‘fairness’when (it appeared) Chansiri was minted & spvnking brass left right & centre on players / contracts he (NB he = we - he owns the club !) clearly couldn’t / can’t afford Appears it’s only “unfair” if we don’t benefit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, tomhollywood said: The EFL is a shambles. Why is the governing body of 3 of the top 4 leagues in our country so out of touch with the clubs and what is going on?! The fact that season after season we are seeing disputes going to court between clubs and the EFL is ridiculous. Yet the only thing the EFL can think to do is to dish out points deductions and skew the competition even more than it already is against the backdrop of parachute payments. I don't have a problem with parachute payments pet se. They're necessary. It's how they are allowed to be utilised that is the issue. Well that and the obscene discrepancy in how money is allocated across the league's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, NeonLeon said: Don’t they have to have a certain amount of millions effectively sat in a bank account to pass the Fit & Proper test with the EFL though? Yes but doesn't have to be in the company bank just proof of where finds will come from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I remember a time when the final league positions were decided by matters on the field. Football is so corrupt and sleezy now. Doesn’t represent the game I grew up watching. The game has been stolen by the rich and it’s us fans that suffer. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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