OwlBiSeeinThi Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Wycombe might survive yet. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-efl-appeal-breaking-5395684 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ANDY Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 They’ll start on -12 next season. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) It’s a bit rough that the appeal has been won just after the season has finished. Not for us I mean, we’re awful, but possibly for Wycombe, assuming there’s going to be a points deduction. Edited May 10, 2021 by Pablo Bonvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pablo Bonvin said: It’s a bit rough that the appeal has been won just after the season has finished. Not for us I mean, we’re awful, but possibly for Wycombe, assuming there’s going to be a points deduction. Not sure the season us over until after the playoffs. Could the deduction potentially be applied this season. That would be a blow for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pablo Bonvin said: It’s a bit rough that the appeal has been won just after the season has finished. Not for us I mean, we’re awful, but possibly for Wycombe, assuming there’s going to be a points deduction. Appeal was won weeks ago, derby threatened daily mail with court action to stop them reporting it apparently, it's so ludicrous how amateurish EFL are in these cases 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 The more cheating clubs that get relegated, have their income severely reduced, their squads decimated, the better for competitive football. Can't see any punishment this season, we (kinda) set a precedent on that one, with a notable nod toward Brum. It will apply next season, whatever it is. Derby fudged the numbers by £30m over three years, so you'd expect a points deduction based on FFP alone. Good for the EFL. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Manwë said: The more cheating clubs that get relegated, have their income severely reduced, their squads decimated, the better for competitive football. Can't see any punishment this season, we (kinda) set a precedent on that one, with a notable nod toward Brum. It will apply next season, whatever it is. Derby fudged the numbers by £30m over three years, so you'd expect a points deduction based on FFP alone. Good for the EFL. I suppose it depends if it goes to an arbitration panel. It's a mess from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Wicket Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 This really is a mess. You can understand Wycombe side of the argument. I can see Derby starting -12 next season and appealling it to -6 like we did. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, Jakes Grandad said: This really is a mess. You can understand Wycombe side of the argument. I can see Derby starting -12 next season and appealling it to -6 like we did. Probably, the only difference being that our appeal was still ongoing at this stage of the season and not heard until July wasn't it? Derby might not get that luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 Mods, if you want to merge this with the other wycombe thread feel free. I didn't notice it before I posted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsandwich Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, NeonLeon said: I hate it when journalists pass off "searching on companies house" as news reporting. Its ******** nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Wicket Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, OwlBiSeeinThi said: Probably, the only difference being that our appeal was still ongoing at this stage of the season and not heard until July wasn't it? Derby might not get that luxury. And there is a precedent with Macclesfield who were relegated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, NeonLeon said: That's a joke of a comment from Mr football finance expert. Common for a company to be incorporated with a £2 share issue. Wouldn't just be sat there with £50m in bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wall Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 What a joke football has become 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: That's a joke of a comment from Mr football finance expert. Common for a company to be incorporated with a £2 share issue. Wouldn't just be sat there with £50m in bank Don’t they have to have a certain amount of millions effectively sat in a bank account to pass the Fit & Proper test with the EFL though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nero Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Manwë said: The more cheating clubs that get relegated, have their income severely reduced, their squads decimated, the better for competitive football. Can't see any punishment this season, we (kinda) set a precedent on that one, with a notable nod toward Brum. It will apply next season, whatever it is. Derby fudged the numbers by £30m over three years, so you'd expect a points deduction based on FFP alone. Good for the EFL. Ok, they broke the rules and deserve punishing. Like us. But why are formerly decent clubs like Derby Wednesday Birmingham Wolves etc etc 'cheating' in the first place? And why is this only ''cheating' when its in the Championship? They and we are trying to play against a rigged deck where teams like Bournemouth Watford etc can massively outspend them despite their poxy crowds. Or middling teams like Norwich and WBA raking in vast sums to go up and come down every year. Its all fkin pathetic. Or we have stupid foreign owners who just want to make billions in the Premiership. Competitive football would start with an end to parachutes being used for anything but existing costs and TV money going to the teams that people are actually paying to watch rather than the Prem landfill clubs like Burnley or Palace who get hundreds of millions to be fodder for the rich. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Could be they get relegated because of the breach, go into admin and start next season on -15 in L1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ76 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 The EFL have alot of questions to answer if this is correct. Wasn't this charge relating to the accounts for the same period as ours when we were penalised? If so how can the points deduction be added a season later? Why did it take so long for the appeal to be heard when our hearing and appeal had been completed by November? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: That's a joke of a comment from Mr football finance expert. Common for a company to be incorporated with a £2 share issue. Wouldn't just be sat there with £50m in bank Yeah. On that basis - as my company is incorporated with £10 of shares, I am 5 times bigger than that chancer. A couple of calls to Saudi and maybe I could bid for us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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