Popular Post @owlstalk Posted January 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2021 Hinchcliffe said: "He [Pulis] was brought in to keep them up. You can see the sense in the appointment. You only have to look at his track record to see what he has done with teams and what he possibly could have done at Sheffield Wednesday but the numbers aren't great. One win in 10. They scored six goals and conceded 12. "I watched them play a couple of times they didn't look like they were playing high enough up the pitch to score goals and win games. "It was an incredibly difficult situation but I think the major problem at Sheffield Wednesday is that if you want to be a manager there and you want to have a say in the running of the club and prospective transfers, that is maybe not going to happen. "I think Chansiri wants a coach. He wants to manage the club, the philosophy, do all the transfer dealings and let the coach coach the players. "If you are talking about Paul Cook, Danny Cowley, Gus Poyet...if they want to go in as managers then I'm not sure that is going to be allowed because they want someone to coach the set of players and they do have a decent set of players there at Sheffield Wednesday. "But I have always felt that the owner there seems to do the managing and they want someone to do the coaching. "Danny Cowley had that problem when he was talking to Huddersfield about taking the job there. He didn't want to be head coach. He wanted to be manager and have more control. "I don't think Chansiri wants to give any coach or manager that type of control. ”He wants the control and for the coach to do the job and maybe that was where the frustration came in for Tony Pulis, not being allowed to maybe do what he wanted to do in January. 17 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 He’s right. Wasn’t Carlos head coach? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. As much as I wasn't a fan of Pulis at the club, it makes more sense than DC just deciding he wasn't right after 10 games when you look at how long it took him to pull the trigger on Carlos, Jos & Monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 He's right. I don't agree with that approach but while Chansiri is here, he needs to recruit someone to suit the way he chooses to run the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Old cöcknose is right 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Monkey Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Gob_Bluth said: It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. As much as I wasn't a fan of Pulis at the club, it makes more sense than DC just deciding he wasn't right after 10 games when you look at how long it took him to pull the trigger on Carlos, Jos & Monk That and poor performances, players not liking his methods, continued change of formations & leaking stories to the press 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Decent set of players.. another pundit who hasn’t paid attention for about 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I can well believe that is DC's ideal situation. That's why he will employ a foreign coach. Probably why we will go down this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Yes Chansiri is an interfering sod and he should let the manager manage the side and make the decisions. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 News to most on here that.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJMortimer Posted January 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2021 For all his faults, I'm not convinced this is especially true. He spent something like £8m that we couldn't afford on Rhodes and seemed sanguine to let a succession of managers keep him in the stands or on the bench. Then there has been the Westwood and Hutchinson hokey cokey in and out of first team consideration for the last couple of years, endless rotation of forwards for a while, swapping of goalkeepers and Monk deciding the club's future direction at a crucial period by reverting to a change of formation. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 If it's true, with all the gaps/lack of knowledge displayed by Chansiri, he should really stop trying to be the manager and rather remain the club owner, as he's clearly out of his depth on the manager side of things. And I struggle to see who would want to come in as a coach in such a restrictive work environment too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, DJMortimer said: For all his faults, I'm not convinced this is especially true. He spent something like £8m that we couldn't afford on Rhodes and seemed sanguine to let a succession of managers keep him in the stands or on the bench. Then there has been the Westwood and Hutchinson hokey cokey in and out of first team consideration for the last couple of years, endless rotation of forwards for a while, swapping of goalkeepers and Monk deciding the club's future direction at a crucial period by reverting to a change of formation. You don’t know who makes those decisions tho 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 If you owned the club and sank 350million into a sport you didn’t understand you’d all do the same I would too Id bring back Owen Morrison and Paolo DiCanio and Ben Marshall and we’d be premier league by now 3 4 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Maybe, maybe not. Regardless of whether Pulis wanted more control over the management side, he was a terribly shìt coach and couldn't be trusted to bring in any of his own players 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: For all his faults, I'm not convinced this is especially true. He spent something like £8m that we couldn't afford on Rhodes and seemed sanguine to let a succession of managers keep him in the stands or on the bench. Then there has been the Westwood and Hutchinson hokey cokey in and out of first team consideration for the last couple of years, endless rotation of forwards for a while, swapping of goalkeepers and Monk deciding the club's future direction at a crucial period by reverting to a change of formation. It seems to me the word “manage” is being used slightly ambiguously here - I don’t think Hinchliffe means DC wants to pick the team every week like some owners, but giving someone the title of “manager” implies a degree of input into decisions on transfers, club strategy etc that DC has been totally unwilling to do. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Shezza Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Hinchcliffe said: "He [Pulis] was brought in to keep them up. You can see the sense in the appointment. You only have to look at his track record to see what he has done with teams and what he possibly could have done at Sheffield Wednesday but the numbers aren't great. One win in 10. They scored six goals and conceded 12. "I watched them play a couple of times they didn't look like they were playing high enough up the pitch to score goals and win games. "It was an incredibly difficult situation but I think the major problem at Sheffield Wednesday is that if you want to be a manager there and you want to have a say in the running of the club and prospective transfers, that is maybe not going to happen. "I think Chansiri wants a coach. He wants to manage the club, the philosophy, do all the transfer dealings and let the coach coach the players. "If you are talking about Paul Cook, Danny Cowley, Gus Poyet...if they want to go in as managers then I'm not sure that is going to be allowed because they want someone to coach the set of players and they do have a decent set of players there at Sheffield Wednesday. "But I have always felt that the owner there seems to do the managing and they want someone to do the coaching. "Danny Cowley had that problem when he was talking to Huddersfield about taking the job there. He didn't want to be head coach. He wanted to be manager and have more control. "I don't think Chansiri wants to give any coach or manager that type of control. ”He wants the control and for the coach to do the job and maybe that was where the frustration came in for Tony Pulis, not being allowed to maybe do what he wanted to do in January. Maybe he’s right but the bit about Pulis’s return from ten games and sitting too deep to score goals ring very true. He was happy to camp in our own half when we were one nil down and didn’t look like creating anything. TP tactics were too rigid. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Groundhopping Owl said: It seems to me the word “manage” is being used slightly ambiguously here - I don’t think Hinchliffe means DC wants to pick the team every week like some owners, but giving someone the title of “manager” implies a degree of input into decisions on transfers, club strategy etc that DC has been totally unwilling to do. Oh I think it's perfectly clear that the team manager has not been able to take charge of player recruitment and that this has been a big problem, not just on the field, but off it as well. The suspicion lingers that signings may have to satisfy more parties than just the football club and it's coaching staff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: He’s right. Wasn’t Carlos head coach? "No, Carlos chose which players we signed. Promise!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 If Chansiri wants the club to play two upfront, then he can keep on managing vs these other managers who insist one upfront wackaball is the only way to play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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