Ray Von shabba Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mighty0wls said: Id be fuming if I was Lees, just been on the receiving end of a red card tackle which they get a goal out of, you'd expect at least your teammates to back you. He has one of the most disrespectful, disgusting and unprofessional reactions to a goal of that nature I've ever seen. Disagree and agree. Lees bottled it and had a poor game anyway and Odubajo was out of order. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whowantstoberich Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 13 hours ago, RedDragonOwl said: Thought he played well, and even if he were to congratulate an opponent on the goal, would it really matter? After the match no. During yes. The prat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty0wls Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Just now, Ray Von shabba said: Disagree and agree. Lees bottled it and had a poor game anyway and Odubajo was out of order. Don't think he bottled it, he stupidly nearly backed off then decided to go in for it last minute, so bad defending. Regardless, if you're Oddjob you would be fuming at Lees, the ref or grabban. Take your pick in the heat of the moment. Laugh and high 5? Hes taking the mick and now he's lying about it. Hopefully 1 of our players has squared up to him this morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Absolute joke of a footballer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsHall Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Ross Wallace does it = Legend Boo boy hate attracter Odubajo does it = Traitor Go figure Sigh......chalk and cheyse...if you can’t see it was inappropriate there’s summat wrong. UTO. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: Liverpool can rely on sheer quality to see them through to Premier League and Champions League trophies. Klopp has won Liverpool the pot they’ve most coveted for 30 years and has therefore secured a lifetime of well wishes at one of the biggest clubs in the world. We are a badly assembled Championship team currently bottom of the league and 7 points adrift of safety. In the absence of just about any quality, we are entirely reliant on a fighting spirit and being competitive enough in games to somehow fight and claw our way to safety. Even if you take Moses’ explanation at face value, it’s a horrendous look for a team in our position and a stupid thing to do. Fans of this team are DESPERATE for something to latch onto to think this team has what it takes to survive. Moses - whether he wants to accept it or not, whether he meant it or not - has revealed a lot to those fans about where those very minimal expectations actually are. I agree with every single word of that. The actions of Klopp (laughing as opponents score) and Moses (allegedly laughing as opponents score) are the same. But the context - Klopp has been a great manager and won lots of stuff, and Moses is a cheap free player in a badly performing team - alters the perception. You should therefore look through the act itself and examine why we are looking at Klopp differently to Moses. The answer is in your post. Its because we are bottom of the league and 7 points from safety. AND THATS THE ISSUE NOT THE LAUGHING. Moses isnt entirely responsible for that fact. Look to the rest of the team, and the manager who is coaching them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, mcmigo said: I agree with every single word of that. The actions of Klopp (laughing as opponents score) and Moses (allegedly laughing as opponents score) are the same. But the context - Klopp has been a great manager and won lots of stuff, and Moses is a cheap free player in a badly performing team - alters the perception. You should therefore look through the act itself and examine why we are looking at Klopp differently to Moses. The answer is in your post. Its because we are bottom of the league and 7 points from safety. AND THATS THE ISSUE NOT THE LAUGHING. Moses isnt entirely responsible for that fact. Look to the rest of the team, and the manager who is coaching them. Moses is extremely far down the list of reasons why we are in the mess we are in. A 30 second look at the front page of this forum will tell you that the rest of the team, management and ownership are being looked at and scrutinised. Players do however have to shoulder responsibility for their own actions. As I said, the fans are desperate to see *something* from this team that shows it’s up for the relegation fight. We’re not seeing it on the pitch. Players laughing and joking with the opposition after they’ve scored is only going to look one way. As my interest in football generally wains (or rather, is killed off) I become more and more dismissive of fans ranting and raving in general. In this instance however, this ones on the player. He has to accept how it looks. He has to be prepared for his actions to now be the face of any perception that the team doesn’t care or isn’t fighting for results. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Only those on the club's payroll , direct ot not, would buy that rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsdreamer Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 15 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Imagine watching the match and really believing someone when they said he gave their player a massive high five for scoring against us tho I'm going to go back through the matchday thread and find out all those who believed that and then sell them some left handed forks Don't sell your on cuttlery items mate Not saying it was high five but what the fuckk was it. I dunno, do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinOwlMan Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 21 hours ago, BIG D said: I’d rather have seen him shove him into the back of the net if he thought he had done Tom Lees (which he didn’t) Yeah, we can't get enough red cards at a time like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 15 hours ago, WAWAWUTO17 said: His statement doesn't explain anything. High fiving someone who nearly broke your colleagues leg. Whoosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Man I’ve missed @sheffield_dave Top, top poster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 When your football club you represent is rooted at the bottom of the league with all sorts of issues on and off the pitch and you are playing against a side that the fans deemed a 6 pointer ( Forest had worst form then us ) then the last thing the fans want to see Is a crap player laughing with the opposition goalscorer when he knocks in the final nail.....or is it just me, have we all turned into people that now has to clap and smile when that happens ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, TaxiMark said: When your football club you represent is rooted at the bottom of the league with all sorts of issues on and off the pitch and you are playing against a side that the fans deemed a 6 pointer ( Forest had worst form then us ) then the last thing the fans want to see Is a crap player laughing with the opposition goalscorer when he knocks in the final nail.....or is it just me, have we all turned into people that now has to clap and smile when that happens ? I'd say those are fair points you raise Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 £15,000 a week - OK paid in installments - and that's best he can come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Look footballers in general are not very bright. At school they knew that they would be playing pro and concentrated on the football rather than education. No point slagging player off. He was honest. Slag the players off who say they love the club and feel totally the opposite. Blame the people coaching the players who are supposedly installing an attitude in the players that is representative of an approach to be successful. Moses should have been scared to death of what would happen from the manager / team mates / captain. Anyone who plays football or sport for that matter at any level will know that if you want to win you can not have a mates attitude against the opposition. You also know that how you react in the moment is a good way of understanding how competitive you are being at that time. Example you cant play your best and want to beat the opposition by using any ploy possible and then turn it off for a split second. This is why players get sent off for dissent and totally regret it later. Moses has shown us why we have a shocking disciplinary record, why we keep conceding soft goals and why we bottom. The players just dont care about the club and are allowed to be like this. If this attitude is allowed at a club then it will happen anywhere else. The fact that it doesnt is down to the clubs management. Can you imagine what the effort is like in training if this is what happens on the pitch in games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 On 16/12/2020 at 04:44, quinnssweetshop said: I do Only time you applaud another teams goal is when it is some wonder strike is what moses did worse than players saying that the club means everything to them but are playing like the total opposite. Moses should have it installed in him like all the others that if you wear the shirt you play with pride. I genuinely feel i could find a squad from the best sunday league players and it would do better than our current squad. If players have the same attitude as Moses then the commitment is not there and we will never win. 11 players playing like their lives depend on it would do better than our current squad. No matter what the players skill levels without the right attitude the results wont change for the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Hornsby said: £15,000 a week - OK paid in installments - and that's best he can come up with. players moaning to press they not been paid in full. Well they not be playing 100 % all season. If i was paying wages i would find it difficult to pay them at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I'd say those are fair points you raise it could be the next pc movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: is what moses did worse than players saying that the club means everything to them but are playing like the total opposite. Moses should have it installed in him like all the others that if you wear the shirt you play with pride. I genuinely feel i could find a squad from the best sunday league players and it would do better than our current squad. If players have the same attitude as Moses then the commitment is not there and we will never win. 11 players playing like their lives depend on it would do better than our current squad. No matter what the players skill levels without the right attitude the results wont change for the better. Of course it is, in this respect, I do agree with you absolutely , there's no pride in players anymore, but that's a separate subject entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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