Prince Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Buddy Repperton said: We haven't got players to play decent football though! Funny that but teams without a pot to p155 in locally can manage to play football to a reasonable standard and hold their own. Lots of our fans think the only way to complete is set up like we are playing Brazil from 1970 every week, 10 men behind the ball and hope for a lucky goal from a set piece. We are playing in the league with Luton Wycombe and Rotherham for god sake not Liverpool, Man City and Tottenham. Pulis and his brand of diarrhoea football isn’t going to take us anywhere, If it was so wonderful and winning why is he here and not at a club further up the pyramid looking to win stuff at the top table? His time has been and gone and football has moved on, it’s a shame our club and loads of our fans haven’t. This step back in time will end very badly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 15 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I also believe that many fans believe that the style/standard of football is just Pulis getting settled in, making us hard to beat etc It isn't This is the best Pulis will ever give us When he gets a big massive brute of a striker up front things will get worse as he will revert to just hoofing the ball up to the striker and then rushing up the pitch to try and win the second ball Things will get worse ... doubtful . What realistically could he do with this side , with or without a big striker ? people can bang on about his style or that he’s boring , but he’s the best hope we have of staying up this year . The side is dreadful , yet already we are hard to beat . Anybody slagging off appointing pulis is either really dense or wants Wednesday to go down . Maybe both . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, james o connor said: Things will get worse ... doubtful . What realistically could he do with this side , with or without a big striker ? people can bang on about his style or that he’s boring , but he’s the best hope we have of staying up this year . The side is dreadful , yet already we are hard to beat . Anybody slagging off appointing pulis is either really dense or wants Wednesday to go down . Maybe both . Anyone name calling is obviously struggling to come back with a credible argument and resorts to the lowest retort possible. As for wanting the team relegated, pick your dummy up son! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Prince said: Anyone name calling is obviously struggling to come back with a credible argument and resorts to the lowest retort possible. As for wanting the team relegated, pick your dummy up son! Is there a point here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand owl Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Good OP however I wish people would stop saying this is possibly the worst side weve had since 2000, it really, really isn't. We've had a lot better but also alot worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzys Dad Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 20 hours ago, @owlstalk said: But he's doing worse than Garry Monk was, we're getting zero shots on target, we've not won a single game under him and the football has been a bit dire If that's the absolute best he can do why did we sack Garry Monk and give him the job? Makes no sense He’s having to do it with Monk’s players. Monk assembled the worst squad of players imaginable and Pulis has only them to work with. It’s like expecting a surgeon to work with a joiner’s tools. When he gets some new tools, it will be fair to judge him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watto Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 This side is still better than the sides of 2001 - 2005 , we are lacking pace up top and another wide player is required , currently we have 2 centre halves unavailable and Marriot who is injured and hasn't shown any form so far. Pulis needs to address the striker issues as soon as possible , we will not score the required goals to keep us up with the present squad. The football on Wednesday was dire but he's only playing to our strengths at the moment , I expect an improvement in the new year if we add to the squad where we are so lacking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 6 hours ago, james o connor said: Things will get worse ... doubtful . What realistically could he do with this side , with or without a big striker ? people can bang on about his style or that he’s boring , but he’s the best hope we have of staying up this year . The side is dreadful , yet already we are hard to beat . Anybody slagging off appointing pulis is either really dense or wants Wednesday to go down . Maybe both . He's the only hope of us staying up now because he's the manager. But as for the rest - that's silly. Silly I tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastowl Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Buddy Repperton said: We haven't got players to play decent football though! I’m not saying that. I’m not expecting prime Barcelona tiki taka. Just to attack the opposition and have some shots would be nice. Long ball/direct/crosses on the box whatever, not fussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Ok, let’s have a look at things. People say that we don’t have the players to play good football, but is that true? By championship standards, most our defenders are adept at playing to the sort of level required. You can’t say that a midfield three of Luongo, Brown and Bannan, are not capable of playing the passing game. In fact, it would clearly suit them more. Up front is an issue, but it’s an issue whichever system we play. We have no target man, and players like Reach, Windass and even Rhodes, would prefer ball to feet. So we can see, it’s a complete myth that we can’t play decent football, and we play like this, purely because manager wants us to play this way. It’s the only way he knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I think that because we saw some great games and top players under Carlis not that long ago, everyone else is going to get compared to that. Unfair but true. Getting results this season is the key but when supporters return we will want to see a lot more play in the opposition half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightLikeAGirl Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) in recent years, I've seen us play once under Carvalhal, twice under Luhukay and one under Monk, I think? I can't remember the exact details. The only game I really enjoyed was the one under Carvalhal, against Millwall. I last saw us play Wigan under Monk and it was...I don't know how to describe it, but it was just really dull. I think I spent more time playing Pokemon Go than watching the match tbh. Edited December 4, 2020 by FightLikeAGirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Cc first season was the only time we played good football . The only part bothering me is the possession we give the other teams but I’ll take the right defence for now they are working harder than I’ve seen for a few season now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 03/12/2020 at 10:24, @owlstalk said: These threads will become more frequent as time goes by and it dawns on people how Tony Pulis has his sides playing football Yes, get Monk back in so we can go back to watching Brazil again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Quite frankly, it’s embarrassing for us to have this sort of footballing philosophy, and the excuses some put forward justifying it, are unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Brommers said: Yes, get Monk back in so we can go back to watching Brazil again. Yeah - we're so much better now innit Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 23 hours ago, Dizzys Dad said: He’s having to do it with Monk’s players. Monk assembled the worst squad of players imaginable and Pulis has only them to work with. It’s like expecting a surgeon to work with a joiner’s tools. When he gets some new tools, it will be fair to judge him. Monk wasn't responsible for the squad FFP and the Recruitment Team were Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 12 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah - we're so much better now innit Don't know how many times i have to write this. Pulis would not have been my choice for new manager however I can understand why DC brought him in as would see him as the safest bet for avoiding relegation this season. Clearly (well clearly to everyone apart from you), Monk wasn't working. At least give him some time to turn things around, there has been some improvements over a difficult run of fixtures and whilst usually playing with 10 men. Compared to consecutive defeats to Luton, Rotherham and Wycombe things are better. Why you have had such a downer on OUR manager from day 1 I have no idea yet consistently put out pro-Monk messages. I could understand it more if we'd just replaced Klopp who had us top of the league. I've explained my position maybe you could have the courtesy to explain yours but no doubt you'll just add some infantile comment or remove my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 03/12/2020 at 11:30, @owlstalk said: You're getting 10% possession, 1 shot on goal and losing/drawing You're not getting boring wins We haven't had 2 or 3 attacking players yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, Brommers said: Don't know how many times i have to write this. Pulis would not have been my choice for new manager however I can understand why DC brought him in as would see him as the safest bet for avoiding relegation this season. Clearly (well clearly to everyone apart from you), Monk wasn't working. At least give him some time to turn things around, there has been some improvements over a difficult run of fixtures and whilst usually playing with 10 men. Compared to consecutive defeats to Luton, Rotherham and Wycombe things are better. Why you have had such a downer on OUR manager from day 1 I have no idea yet consistently put out pro-Monk messages. I could understand it more if we'd just replaced Klopp who had us top of the league. I've explained my position maybe you could have the courtesy to explain yours but no doubt you'll just add some infantile comment or remove my post. You have just asked @owlstalk why he has such a downer on OUR manager and in the same post are a massive downer on a Sheffield Wednesday manager Garry monk. Are these so called downers allowed or not on this site ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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