onslow Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) -5 points 1 win and 2 draws punishment that wipes out the two score draws with Brum, and the Carabao cup win away at Toy-town Edited July 17, 2020 by onslow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, dr. benway said: -21, but an administrative error ends up applying it to Middlesborough Gibson won’t give a Donald Duck about us, now they’re safe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I have no Idea so why guess 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, bladeshater said: I have no Idea so why guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Grandad said: Yeah soz. I just don't see how we can value Hillsborough at £60m just 2 years after DC bought the club (including Hillsborough) for £35m, then backdate it in the accounts to a time before the company that bought it was formed, with no transfer at the Land Registry until 2 years after the sale - without it looking dodgy Regardless of whether weve got an email from someone at the EFL saying "Yeah - go for it" I'd say its AT LEAST what Birmingham got with some extra thrown in for good measure. Applied this season. Value and price are two separate things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: Common sense really 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvin Parsnip Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 + 15 and a case of carabao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, bladeshater said: Common sense really If you didnt want to guess you could have just read and moved on though? Don't you ever speculate about anything? It might rain tomorrow? Wednesday might win tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko1992 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 -17 and 3 match ban 4 fezzi haha brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCityIsOurs Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 They won’t relegate us, it’ll cause them even more problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamese Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Grandad said: Yeah soz. I just don't see how we can value Hillsborough at £60m just 2 years after DC bought the club (including Hillsborough) for £35m, then backdate it in the accounts to a time before the company that bought it was formed, with no transfer at the Land Registry until 2 years after the sale - without it looking dodgy Regardless of whether weve got an email from someone at the EFL saying "Yeah - go for it" I'd say its AT LEAST what Birmingham got with some extra thrown in for good measure. Applied this season. 2 years? I thought it was in the accounts in 2018 and on the land Registry in 2019? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: If you didnt want to guess you could have just read and moved on though? Don't you ever speculate about anything? It might rain tomorrow? Wednesday might win tomorrow? No black balloons to blow up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: No black balloons to blow up Bizarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: Bizarre But true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 For those proposing a points deduction, what rule have we broken? We've not been charged with breaching p&s, because we haven't (yet), therefore difficult to apply the penalty tariff widely referenced. The misconduct charge covers issues not in the explicit rules and in our case relates to the timing and payment terms of the stadium transaction. EFL may not like it, and I agree its morally suspect but, not an uncommon method of accounting for such transactions and perfectly lawful. The club had permission from EFL and the accounts signed off by auditors and the EFL (initially, when removing the enbargo). If the EFL tried to bring this case in court, in the real world, it would get thrown out. Misconduct covers a variety of sins, therefore the punishment similarly wide reaching. As the charges against individuals dropped, unlikely to prove any deliberate attempt to mislead. The EFL have an awful lot to prove, in order to make any charge stick, against a club owner who won't roll over and be bullied. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, TheCityIsOurs said: They won’t relegate us, it’ll cause them even more problems There is some merit in that statement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, bladeshater said: But true History hasn't really been kind to all those sheep who slated the Black Balloon thing has it? Supporting that chairman at that time now looks to have been foolish to say the least 3 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, striker said: For those proposing a points deduction, what rule have we broken? We've not been charged with breaching p&s, because we haven't (yet), therefore difficult to apply the penalty tariff widely referenced. The misconduct charge covers issues not in the explicit rules and in our case relates to the timing and payment terms of the stadium transaction. EFL may not like it, and I agree its morally suspect but, not an uncommon method of accounting for such transactions and perfectly lawful. The club had permission from EFL and the accounts signed off by auditors and the EFL (initially, when removing the enbargo). If the EFL tried to bring this case in court, in the real world, it would get thrown out. Misconduct covers a variety of sins, therefore the punishment similarly wide reaching. As the charges against individuals dropped, unlikely to prove any deliberate attempt to mislead. The EFL have an awful lot to prove, in order to make any charge stick, against a club owner who won't roll over and be bullied. very good post. All makes sense but why is it taking so bloody long? EFL trying to save face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: very good post. All makes sense but why is it taking so bloody long? EFL trying to save face? Goooo on Waltham Lad, positivity 2 days running. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Where’s the prediction thread gone. Did it all go badly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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