@owlstalk Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 The EFL has written to the Club and informed it that the EFL has dropped all of the charges it issued against Mr Chansiri, Ms Meire and Mr Redgate on 14 November 2019. Each of the individuals considers this a vindication of their defence of the charges. In the Club’s view this decision is a recognition of the strength of the evidence that the Club has filed before league arbitration panels, which demonstrated that there was no proper basis for the charges. The charges against the Club will proceed to a hearing and the Club will continue to vigorously defend those charges. No further comment will be made at this stage. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 Charges against the club are STILL ONGOING People all over social media think we have totally beaten the EFL charges WE HAVENT Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopevalleyowl Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: The EFL has written to the Club and informed it that the EFL has dropped all of the charges it issued against Mr Chansiri, Ms Meire and Mr Redgate on 14 November 2019. Each of the individuals considers this a vindication of their defence of the charges. In the Club’s view this decision is a recognition of the strength of the evidence that the Club has filed before league arbitration panels, which demonstrated that there was no proper basis for the charges. The charges against the Club will proceed to a hearing and the Club will continue to vigorously defend those charges. No further comment will be made at this stage. does this mean we’ve lost the arbitration and now it’s about the extent of the penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, hopevalleyowl said: does this mean we’ve lost the arbitration and now it’s about the extent of the penalty? No. Read what the statement says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 So does it mean they're dropping the bit about dodgy accountancy? Date of sale etc But going ahead with the FFP part about the overvalued stadium sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 got to be a good sign though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: The EFL has written to the Club and informed it that the EFL has dropped all of the charges it issued against Mr Chansiri, Ms Meire and Mr Redgate on 14 November 2019. Each of the individuals considers this a vindication of their defence of the charges. In the Club’s view this decision is a recognition of the strength of the evidence that the Club has filed before league arbitration panels, which demonstrated that there was no proper basis for the charges. The charges against the Club will proceed to a hearing and the Club will continue to vigorously defend those charges. No further comment will be made at this stage. Please Owlstalk help me here Mr Chansiri, Ms Meire and Mr Redgate are/were the representatives of the club in the actions taken. The Club, without the representatives is nothing more than an inanimate object. How do you bring a charge against an inanimate object ? I'm not a legal bod can you please explain ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Please Owlstalk help me here Mr Chansiri, Ms Meire and Mr Redgate are/were the representatives of the club in the actions taken. The Club, without the representatives is nothing more than an inanimate object. How do you bring a charge against an inanimate object ? I'm not a legal bod can you please explain ? That's a fantastic point, it's not the club that has broke the rules but individuals who are running the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 So Chansiri was right all along about the legality of the EFL charges Given the current situation I would suspect the EFL are fooked 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopevalleyowl Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Key said: No. Read what the statement says. right okay so why has the club got to continue to defend charges? Or... are you saying we haven’t concluded the arbitration yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 some good news here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Charges against the club are STILL ONGOING People all over social media think we have totally beaten the EFL charges WE HAVENT Some people don’t bother to read things properly, though it is a glimmer of good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Please Owlstalk help me here Mr Chansiri, Ms Meire and Mr Redgate are/were the representatives of the club in the actions taken. The Club, without the representatives is nothing more than an inanimate object. How do you bring a charge against an inanimate object ? I'm not a legal bod can you please explain ? Only guessing, but weren't DC & Co being charged for back dating the stadium sale? That's the bit that's been dropped. We're still being charged with breaching FFP/P&S the same way the other clubs are, for the way we've overvalued the stadium. Edited March 20, 2020 by The Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, hopevalleyowl said: right okay so why has the club got to continue to defend charges? Or... are you saying we haven’t concluded the arbitration yet? “The charges against the Club will proceed to a hearing and the Club will continue to vigorously defend those charges.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, The Batman said: So does it mean they're dropping the bit about dodgy accountancy? Date of sale etc But going ahead with the FFP part about the overvalued stadium sale? I interpret it as there is sufficient evidence to charge the club with financial wrongdoing and punish us accordingly. The SWFC statement, the first paragraph in bold, it is designed to indicate a victory for the club. But this announcement definitely isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, hopevalleyowl said: does this mean we’ve lost the arbitration and now it’s about the extent of the penalty? It may mean we've lost the arbitration but if we have, there's still got to be a hearing and only if we lose this will we face a penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Me too Owlstalk was/is looking to prolong the saga. Worry not Owlstalk, we can do that with defamation of carachter/hurt feelings, financial damage to the club and damage to our progress through the league structure; You can settle out of court if you wish but it will cost and it will hurt ! Up The Boro' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Was over the moon until I read the last paragraph. Arguably the most important change if I’m correct is the one against the club because that is the one that would come with a point deduction? Any idea what the EFL where saying the 3 of them had done wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Spookone said: Some people don’t bother to read things properly, though it is a glimmer of good news. Very good news yeah! Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Let’s go out and celebrate............oh poo 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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