kirksandallowl Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, AtkinsonsBarmyArmy said: Heard it's a 12 point deduction. Maybe one of the reasons early bird season tickets were brought forward to February instead of march. Maybe club already know outcome? Who knows. We shall soon find out. 1 minute ago, AtkinsonsBarmyArmy said: I'm led to believe the case of whether the charges are lawful concluded a while ago. If I remember right didn't a journalist write that the Efl want this concluded by the end of February? Maybe nothing to do with season ticket deadline just coincidence. Like I said, we shall see. All rumours & hearsay at moment. Prepare for the worse, hope for the best... 18 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Isn’t this a hearing to find out if the charges are lawful, which if they are would then lead to a hearing to find out if we are guilty? I honestly don’t see how anyone could know what potential punishment we will face at this stage. 16 hours ago, kirksandallowl said: Some people on here don’t let facts get in the way of a chance to have a pop at the club, they thrive on the negativity. Given the EFL have released statements at every stage of the proceedings i cannot believe they have won the arbitration side of things and moved to and completed the disciplinary hearing without releasing a statement to that effect. As i said above, from the Rhodes thread, some people on here love to feed the negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, kirksandallowl said: Given the EFL have released statements at every stage of the proceedings i cannot believe they have won the arbitration side of things and moved to and completed the disciplinary hearing without releasing a statement to that effect. As i said above, from the Rhodes thread, some people on here love to feed the negativity. I would agree with a 2 stage announcement, that way the EFL can maximize their message that they are going to get rough with clubs who break the rules And leave us hanging and worried again for a few weeks, if there is a case to answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtkinsonsBarmyArmy Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, kirksandallowl said: Given the EFL have released statements at every stage of the proceedings i cannot believe they have won the arbitration side of things and moved to and completed the disciplinary hearing without releasing a statement to that effect. As i said above, from the Rhodes thread, some people on here love to feed the negativity. Didn't realise I was posting something negative. Just what I had heard, whether true or false. Thought that was the whole purpose of a forum? To discuss swfc and discuss/debate different aspects of it. Like many posters I heard something regarded the efl situation and thought I would post it. Very very rare I post something on here, but enjoy reading it most days. Whether it's TRUE or not I don't know because I don't work for the efl or swfc. Didn't realise it came across in a negative way. Be rest assured I will post positive news the next time I hear some.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 48 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Isn’t this a hearing to find out if the charges are lawful, which if they are would then lead to a hearing to find out if we are guilty? I honestly don’t see how anyone could know what potential punishment we will face at this stage. People love to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 12 point deduction with 9 points suspended. Source : Barry at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Ferkorf said: 12 point deduction with 9 points suspended. Source : Barry at work That was posted on Twitter last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ferkorf said: 12 point deduction with 9 points suspended. Source : Barry at work Not Bannan? He said we’re making the play-offs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, sonofbert2 said: Not Bannan? He said we’re making the play-offs. No not Barry Bannan although he has got the same hair style and colour. Edited February 24, 2020 by Ferkorf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ferkorf said: No not Barry Bannan although he has got the same hair style and colour. Think I might know him. His his nickname Ginger Flaps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, TrickyTrev said: Isn’t this a hearing to find out if the charges are lawful, which if they are would then lead to a hearing to find out if we are guilty? Yes, but if we lose or have already lost the arb case, then we are as good as - points deduction. Just a matter of how many. If its true and arbitration was over a few days ago we will have lost. Interesting our QC has removed...'represented sheffield wednesday' from his web page Hopefully still ongoing..that Star says it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, nbupperthongowl said: I would agree with a 2 stage announcement, that way the EFL can maximize their message that they are going to get rough with clubs who break the rules And leave us hanging and worried again for a few weeks, if there is a case to answer With respect... what value would there be in attempting to get the club worried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, sonofbert2 said: Think I might know him. His his nickname Ginger Flaps? Yes how did you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, sherlyegg said: Yes, but if we lose or have already lost the arb case, then we are as good as - points deduction. Just a matter of how many. If its true and arbitration was over a few days ago we will have lost. Interesting our QC has removed...'represented sheffield wednesday' from his web page Hopefully still ongoing..that Star says it is. If the EFL wins the arb case it only means they are allowed to press charges within the rules. Doesn’t mean the charges will stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) “Have we had a decision yet Dad?” “No son, it’s a throw up between the EFL decision and the takeover what comes first.” “It‘s all a load of throw isn’t it Dad?” ”Dunno son, let’s see what the Owls Talk know-all’s say first”. “They’ll probably mention their preference for the word T0-ss Dad” Edited February 24, 2020 by theowlsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Mister Soul said: With respect... what value would there be in attempting to get the club worried? What the points penalty may be.....this is just the arbitration result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Will we be getting another Umbongo? And will it be a soft or hard Umbongo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Ferkorf said: 12 point deduction with 9 points suspended. Source : Barry at work 3 point deduction then? Not bad, we do that most weeks. Or do you mean a 21 point deduction with 9 suspended so we lose 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I'm uncomfortable with the notion of 'celebrating' a positive outcome. I don't want Sheffield Wednesday to be deducted any points under any circumstances. But just remember the decision making process within the club over the last 2 years which has brought us to this point, that does not appear to be changing any time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 57 minutes ago, sweetsheri said: If the EFL wins the arb case it only means they are allowed to press charges within the rules. Doesn’t mean the charges will stick Yes it does, see qpr case. Very similar. We have said, the charge is unlawful. If the arb panel says it wasn't, we are foooked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, AtkinsonsBarmyArmy said: Didn't realise I was posting something negative. Just what I had heard, whether true or false. Thought that was the whole purpose of a forum? To discuss swfc and discuss/debate different aspects of it. Like many posters I heard something regarded the efl situation and thought I would post it. Very very rare I post something on here, but enjoy reading it most days. Whether it's TRUE or not I don't know because I don't work for the efl or swfc. Didn't realise it came across in a negative way. Be rest assured I will post positive news the next time I hear some.. Sorry didn’t realise a 12 point deduction could be seen as anything but negative. Even if the arbitration hearing has been concluded and a judgment been reached (I would expect a statement from the EFL, the club or both to that effect) it the goes to an independent disciplinary panel hearing at which the club is allowed to defend itself, again I would expect an announcement from both the EFL & the club, they didn’t hang about announcing Birmingham’s punishment, I would also expect the clubs statement to say they are appealing the decision. But no bullshit billy down the nags head heard it before any of this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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