SiJ Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, Mycroft said: And without? I claim they they do have the potential. And if Ashley stopped interfering and supported the manager they could still do it. Not for me. The top 6 are way ahead of them and the others. To bridge that gap would take substantial investment and a complete rethink in approach. As things stand, Newcastle are far, far more likely to be relegated than they are to break into the top 6. That will be the case for the foreseeable future. The likes of Leicester, Wolves, Everton are way ahead of them and I doubt any of those will have enough to bridge the gap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Maybe the admission of “out of respect” he spoke to Newcastle he knew it would anger fans and perhaps burn a few bridges. Short of resigning if the fans turn it forces the chairman’s hand in terms of letting him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, SiJ said: Not for me. The top 6 are way ahead of them and the others. To bridge that gap would take substantial investment and a complete rethink in approach. As things stand, Newcastle are far, far more likely to be relegated than they are to break into the top 6. That will be the case for the foreseeable future. The likes of Leicester, Wolves, Everton are way ahead of them and I doubt any of those will have enough to bridge the gap. At the moment you are probably right, but I'm going on potential with a decent board and the right management team they could break into that top six and stay there. You name Wolves who have in a matter of a 2 or 3 seasons have transformed themselves if Newcastle could do the same then skys the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) My prediction is that Bruce will decide to stay after thinking it through this weekend. He’d best buy the most humongus Humble Pie before he does though. Followed by a “Why I couldn’t leave this massive club and wonderful fans” statement, with Mr C looking on intently, Collins book of PR in hand, giving Bruce the evils. Edited July 14, 2019 by theowlsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Got to feel for all those poor Newcastle fans tho, it must be absolutely terrible to finish mid table in the Premier League. Whilst other traditional ‘big clubs’ like ourselves Forest, Leeds, Derby etc have spent decades in the wilderness Would anybody have Mike Ashley here if it meant having to suffer the horrors of mid table in the Premier league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonan8 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mycroft said: And without? I claim they they do have the potential. And if Ashley stopped interfering and supported the manager they could still do it. Which he won’t, and again he won’t, so they won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 minute ago, theowlsman said: My prediction is that Bruce will decide to stay after thinking it through this weekend. He’d best buy the most humongus Humble Pie before he does though. Followed by a “Why I couldn’t leave this massive club and wonderful fans” statement, with Mr C looking on intently, Collins book of PR in hand, giving Bruce the evils. I also have a feeling he will stay - personally I think it’s the best chance we have of a very good season, as you say he really needs to handle it well though. But a good run to start the season and most of our fanbase will overlook this little indiscretion. (or he may decide to go) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, Stoop said: Got to feel for all those poor Newcastle fans tho, it must be absolutely terrible to finish mid table in the Premier League. Whilst other traditional ‘big clubs’ like ourselves Forest, Leeds, Derby etc have spent decades in the wilderness Would anybody have Mike Ashley here if it meant having to suffer the horrors of mid table in the Premier league? No, he’s an obnoxious, southern, shandy drinker whose Sports Direct company sells crap fishing tackle by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: Maybe the admission of “out of respect” he spoke to Newcastle he knew it would anger fans and perhaps burn a few bridges. Short of resigning if the fans turn it forces the chairman’s hand in terms of letting him go. Totally He also said ‘it was only right that I go and talk’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, theowlsman said: No, he’s an obnoxious, southern, shandy drinker whose Sports Direct company sells crap fishing tackle by the way They do fantastic Lonsdale tracksuits though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, Stoop said: They do fantastic Lonsdale tracksuits though How much are they Stoop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 My guess is that if Ashley hasn't come through for him by tomorrow, Bruce will rule himself out of the running. As much as he wants that job, he'll also know this current situation can't continue - and Newcastle have left him in limbo. Ball is very much in Ashley's court....pay up, walk away, or Bruce will have to make the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldowl67 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Integrity, loyalty and respect are worth more to us. In professional football, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Now we’ve all decided he’s staying, I’ll phone Ian (Holloway), who is still sat by the phone, waiting for Mr C’s call, to let him know there’s no need for his Mrs to fill his flask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, wilyfox said: My guess is that if Ashley hasn't come through for him by tomorrow, Bruce will rule himself out of the running. As much as he wants that job, he'll also know this current situation can't continue - and Newcastle have left him in limbo. Ball is very much in Ashley's court....pay up, walk away, or Bruce will have to make the decision. 100% agree. My concern is will he be forgiven and still have the desire for us? Can you imagine if he stays here a we start the season badly... all hell will break loose! One thing he would have had with us before this debacle is time! He no longer has that luxury either with us or Newcastle! He really has shot himself in the foot! I feel for him slightly though as the media make it impossible these day's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I honestly have a feeling he will end up staying, how he comes back from this time will tell but a good start would be to distance himself from them, start making the right noises and getting us ready for the upcoming promotion push. I don't think it's to late to turn this around but it's very much in his hands now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bigblueowl said: I feel for him slightly though as the media / fans forums make it impossible these day's. Fixed it for you.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, theowlsman said: I’m still failing to see how a move to Newcastle under Ashley is a better option than taking us up to the Premiership. Dunno, perhaps I’m a bit biased? Where's the guarantee that Bruce would take us to the premiership ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Potentially, he's mad a right rod for his own back. If the two parties don't reach agreement then his options are to stay or resign...but then the latter isn't straightforward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 If he resigns he will be put on gardening leave and Newcastle will find another manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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