Nero Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Seems like the difference between fans and chairman is he is prepared to risk it all on one more turn of the dice for promotion (which I think he is convinced is going to happen fast). The majority fans want a more balanced approach (whilst still wanting to have an attractive attacking team challenging for promotion on a vastly reduced budget.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: A book wiv pictures of Ducks!!!! I think I'm up to speed ............ Ducks? Is this confirmed? Where do I sign?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, mkowl said: The issue is that if you sell something today with the explicit right to use an asset indefinitely accounting wise you should really spread the revenue over a long period I am sure there is smoke and mirrors to allocate most of it to today. This is where the book comes in, you can show value being received by the customer (us) in exchange for our money So from the point of view of selling the boxes, if you could show there was no future liability in selling one couldn’t you allocate all the income to today? All the buyer has a right to is access rights. He has to decorate it and maintain it. The club has the right but not obligation to sell food and drink to the box holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, ElsecarOwl said: Agree to a point but why would you shell out a lump sum for something the club could by back when they want. It would depend on the terms. I would be attracted to buying a seat for life for £6K if the club had the right to buy it back at any time for £6K + inflation. id get my money back and I’d have watched the club for X years for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The only safe thing to do is buy an annual ST. Any longer term is a risk & no ST means paying top whack POTG. One year at a time, sweet jesus, as somebody once sang. Allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: It would depend on the terms. I would be attracted to buying a seat for life for £6K if the club had the right to buy it back at any time for £6K + inflation. id get my money back and I’d have watched the club for X years for free. Put like that, fair enough. Edited January 22, 2019 by ElsecarOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, steelowl said: club 1867 isnt freeeeee Fun and sunshine, there's enough for everyone All that's missing is the seat But don't worry, it's not a con honest Wham bam thank you man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Why are we robbing peter to pay for paul? Down the line this will hurt revenue even futher. Its excatly the mistake we made with multi yeat tickets. Effectively spending the money early, gambling on promotion. Instead of splitting it over the years. So now we need to gamble yet more money. To cover the previous gamble. (anyone spotting a trend here??) Now im really trying not to be negative, im all for good ideas. This is just a mad gamble. This all could have been avioded, with a player sale at the right time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: A book wiv pictures of Ducks!!!! I think I'm up to speed ............ Ei der no idea on this tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 DC is like a teenager who's had his first credit card, blown all his cash and also taken the card right up to the limit and is now heavily in debt. He can no longer spend on the card so has gone out onto the streets with a begging bowl hoping fair minded people will feel sorry for his erratic behaviour. Would you give to a beggar who has no long term plan of balancing income against expenditure apart from going to the casino and gambling all the donations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, davey_wells said: This is a complete and utter confusing mess. In fact, its ludicrous Obviously no-one is being forced to buy one - but its clearly a case of a big shrugging its shoulders and saying "if you don't, then we're knackered sorry" I'm not even remotely in a position to get a season ticket, let alone a 5 year speculative one, but given the very public waste of cash over the last few seasons I find it insulting the club would even waste our time proposing this 'offer'. Sell a player or two - you know, one of them ones we've splashed all the cash on in stupid, reckless fashion - and spare us the sob stories. They aren't wasting your time. You arent the target market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Speaking to a mate about this, the season ticket discount seemed a decent idea until he said to me you know DC he will just raise the price to cover any discount you get. Kind of believe now he would do this too. So it's a NO from me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcjack27 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: Why are we robbing peter to pay for paul? Down the line this will hurt revenue even futher. Its excatly the mistake we made with multi yeat tickets. Effectively spending the money early, gambling on promotion. Instead of splitting it over the years. So now we need to gamble yet more money. To cover the previous gamble. (anyone spotting a trend here??) Now im really trying not to be negative, im all for good ideas. This is just a mad gamble. This all could have been avioded, with a player sale at the right time. Absolutely spot on, Chansiri has no long term plan whatsoever he thinks short term which has been our biggest shortfall. Other clubs in the division don’t have to mangle together some premier league season ticket incentive to avoid FFP they just sell players when they’re bang in form and worth the top bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I think fans are already paying above and beyond. Whatever happened to selling players at a higher price than we paid for them to make a profit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Mishowl said: Stop being so stupid, sell the players that have value, balance the books and rebuild. I think DC has the right intentions at heart but he needs to stop these ridiculous schemes, accept his mistakes and look at the long term. I think if you look back quite a few pages, we all agree but fear this will not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Why is he so reluctant to sell players, the only thing I can think of is that we would owe a third party a share of any transfer fee received. If we're relying on this to steer us clear of FFP we have major problems coming our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Cheers chaps for the answers. Just recall an issue with Rangers and their future season ticket money p*ssed away, and there was talk that the season tickets wouldn’t be honoured. Which then made me question the future of this offerings at Wednesday. We've already done a Rangers mate ie spunkedall the future season ticket monies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 My “A”level economics isn’t up to this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcjack27 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Another thing what gets me about DC he wants us to be season ticket holders, members, part of club 1867, buy ELEV8 kits at 60 quid and all the rest but can say in a fans forum that we contribute nothing. The reason he’s put this scheme together is to bail him out from the massive mistakes he’s made in the last couple of years, none more so than Rhodes for 10 million. Don’t trust the bloke one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, Peacenocchio said: They aren't wasting your time. You arent the target market. this is the point as our radio sage @squonk says you don't have to buy one - this is true how big is the target market ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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