HirstWhoScoredIt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, mkowl said: Rip duck But lovely in a pancake roll What would happen if they actually sold a seat lock, stock and barrel from an FFP point of view. i.e. I buy a seat for £6K + VAT and I can sit in that seat whenever I want and get full access rights. In other words a seat for life. Similarly, what would happen if I bought a box for £200K + VAT? I had to decorate it and maintain it. It is my box. I get the right to buy food and drink at an additional price from the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: The jackpot being a Duck then...given those circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Willow Owl said: Don't get all the whinging and moaning. If you can afford it and wish to take the club up on it's offer then good on you. If you cannot afford it then thats okay too. Just don't moan for the sake of it. Personally can afford it but won't be taking them up on it. Neg away The point is Willow..Fans Know it won't work....but the club think it will...... Its not so much a question of taking it up...Its a question of... Who's f.ookin' running this shambles 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 ♫ Club 1867, nothing's free Dreams and moonshine, there's enough for everyone All that's missing is money But don't worry, you're a TrueFan! ♫ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Groundhopping Owl said: What an absolute farce. Particular the way we're basically using priority points as bribery, that's going to cause a lot of ill feeling. The club might have felt a bit lifeless when it was being run by MM and Aldridge, but at least we didn't have to put up with some mad new idea every month, from home-made kit suppliers to ridiculous club membership schemes. From the other side, imagine buying Club 1867 and then not getting a Chelsea ticket. They have to give priority over and beyond season ticket holders for people that take this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: If you can afford it dont you have enough faith in Chansiri getting us up? Not in the slightist, Just my choice. Will get my season ticket as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The real shame in all of this is the best chance the club had of this working was me winning Euro Lottery. But this has distracted me and I’ve missed buying a ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Willow Owl said: Don't get all the whinging and moaning. If you can afford it and wish to take the club up on it's offer then good on you. If you cannot afford it then thats okay too. Just don't moan for the sake of it. Personally can afford it but won't be taking them up on it. Neg away It's not a moan just not liking the fact that future income is being mortgaged to fund today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: What would happen if they actually sold a seat lock, stock and barrel from an FFP point of view. i.e. I buy a seat for £6K + VAT and I can sit in that seat whenever I want and get full access rights. In other words a seat for life. Similarly, what would happen if I bought a box for £200K + VAT? I had to decorate it and maintain it. It is my box. I get the right to buy food and drink at an additional price from the bar. Same thing happened at one of our local golf clubs a couple of years ago. They needed money, so sold a limited number of life memberships. Now hugely regret the short term fix and others that either couldn't afford or missed out resent it. Imagine teenagers buying life memberships........false economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 This is a complete and utter confusing mess. In fact, its ludicrous Obviously no-one is being forced to buy one - but its clearly a case of a big shrugging its shoulders and saying "if you don't, then we're knackered sorry" I'm not even remotely in a position to get a season ticket, let alone a 5 year speculative one, but given the very public waste of cash over the last few seasons I find it insulting the club would even waste our time proposing this 'offer'. Sell a player or two - you know, one of them ones we've splashed all the cash on in stupid, reckless fashion - and spare us the sob stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJayOne Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, ElsecarOwl said: Same thing happened at one of our local golf clubs a couple of years ago. They needed money, so sold a limited number of life memberships. Now hugely regret the short term fix and others that either couldn't afford or missed out resent it. Imagine teenagers buying life memberships........false economy. I bet tickets for life will be the next thing the club will propose in 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, ElsecarOwl said: Same thing happened at one of our local golf clubs a couple of years ago. They needed money, so sold a limited number of life memberships. Now hugely regret the short term fix and others that either couldn't afford or missed out resent it. Imagine teenagers buying life memberships........false economy. Not sure about that. They wouldn’t miss 1,000 seats, we never fill them. Plus you could get creative around it I.e. club has option to buy the seat back. So the club could use PL money to buy back. It could effectively be a ‘secured loan’ taken out by the club. Which seems preferable to the fan of this 1867 gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, DeeJayOne said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: What make DC think he can sell the same thing no one bought last time ? Same thing??? Same thing??? This is totally different!! Its more expensive and you get a little book this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: What would happen if they actually sold a seat lock, stock and barrel from an FFP point of view. i.e. I buy a seat for £6K + VAT and I can sit in that seat whenever I want and get full access rights. In other words a seat for life. Similarly, what would happen if I bought a box for £200K + VAT? I had to decorate it and maintain it. It is my box. I get the right to buy food and drink at an additional price from the bar. The issue is that if you sell something today with the explicit right to use an asset indefinitely accounting wise you should really spread the revenue over a long period I am sure there is smoke and mirrors to allocate most of it to today. This is where the book comes in, you can show value being received by the customer (us) in exchange for our money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, torres said: Same thing??? Same thing??? This is totally different!! Its more expensive and you get a little book this time. A book wiv pictures of Ducks!!!! I think I'm up to speed ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: Not sure about that. They wouldn’t miss 1,000 seats, we never fill them. Plus you could get creative around it I.e. club has option to buy the seat back. So the club could use PL money to buy back. It could effectively be a ‘secured loan’ taken out by the club. Which seems preferable to the fan of this 1867 gamble. Agree to a point but why would you shell out a lump sum for something the club could by back when they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 We’re ducked I tell ya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: I bet tickets for life will be the next thing the club will propose in 12 months. Who's life? The individuals' or the clubs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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