matthefish2002 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 No surprise he started the game on the bench. Think he has always struggled with 2 games close together in all his time with Wednesday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 These players go off and holiday during the international break then cannot play two games of 90 minutes in 4 days oh bless. Make them do a proper 40 hour week getting up at 6am in the morning and not getting in from work till 7pm at night. No we will continue to pamper them and rest them when they are a little tied after a whole 90 minutes of running around after a football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Not fully fit, but is our most talented player. Suppose he’s still got a way to go - after a very serious injury. Doubt Jos will have him start against Blackburn either. ... what I’d give to see FF ripping through defenders like he can do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: Not fully fit, but is our most talented player. Suppose he’s still got a way to go - after a very serious injury. Doubt Jos will have him start against Blackburn either. ... what I’d give to see FF ripping through defenders like he can do. So would we all.But this has not happened for a long time.Something is wrong. Either he is not fit or maybe sulking because he is no longer 'the Holy One'. Which ever way, its not good for us. Either he comes up to scratch or we get rid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, bazapeps said: Looked totally disinterested last night. Barely got out of a light jog. Another one of Jos’ feck ups. Sure FF has been benched more than starting under Jos. But we know he likes to make it harder for himself by not playing our best players. Pleased someone else noticed as I posted in the matchday thread and got slated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_Pepper Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 13 hours ago, LoadABallacks said: Plays him out wide left and asks him to continually track back. Ruining him. All of his good displays under CC were from the left wing. When he's up front he tries to play on the shoulder of the last man and it just doesn't work. A lot of short memories around here today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 There were times last night when it looked like Nando was playing leftback. Luhukay is an idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadABallacks Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sultan_Pepper said: All of his good displays under CC were from the left wing. When he's up front he tries to play on the shoulder of the last man and it just doesn't work. A lot of short memories around here today Not really..... Out left he was most affective in Carlos’ system. He wasn’t required to defend first and attack second. Jos system is the opposite way round and stifles his best qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, oldishowl said: He has always walked around on the pitch looking disinterested. It is how he is. I don’t like the impression it gives and moan about it all the time but it is more obvious at the moment because he is not 100% fit. He plays in bursts and for all the slagging off on here the team only came to life last night when he got on the ball and made forward runs linking the play. He'd be perfect for a team like Barcelona. ....... They already have loads of "him" though. Sadly we are not worthy of players like this now .. We want Tony Tom's Commandos at this club now ..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, LoadABallacks said: Not really..... Out left he was most affective in Carlos’ system. He wasn’t required to defend first and attack second. Jos system is the opposite way round and stifles his best qualities. He played with better players under CC. We had a very decent back four to begin with and often with Hutch dropping deep operating as if we were a back three when Pudil and Hunt pushed on. Add that to the movement between the lines of Hooper, Bannan and Lee then it’s no wonder FF revelled in wandering in from the LHS. Now it’s a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, bazapeps said: Looked totally disinterested last night. Barely got out of a light jog. Another one of Jos’ feck ups. Sure FF has been benched more than starting under Jos. But we know he likes to make it harder for himself by not playing our best players. Here’s his starts and subs... FF Starting Pl 6. W0. D3. L3. Pts 3 (plus defeat in Carp Bao Cup) FF Sub Pl 5. W5. D0. L0. Pts 15. Unavailable FF Pl. 8. W1. D2. L5. Pts 5. Hard to argue that Jos isn’t right on this. Edited November 28, 2018 by Holmowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 15 hours ago, bronxowl said: What has dross done to this player? Wait a minute. Another one on the lets bash the manager again syndrome. These players shouldnt need any motivation, they didnt when they went buying their sodding top of the range Bentleys, Mercs, Range Rovers etc, but there's loads on here who think we should put an arm around these overpaid parasites who are bleeding the club dry but giving jacksh*t in return. That aint the managers fault pal, but again like no one as the decency to answer up my previous posts, which manager worth there salt would come here under the DC regime. The majority pf the players are a disgrace to the shirt. Motivation, confidence, bad tactics, what a load of crap. If they have to be told where to stand on the pitch whilst putting an arm round them then they shouldnt be here. I really hope that the manager does go and lets see who DC replaces him with. and see how he gets the best out of this sorry bunch. I can see quite a bit of humble pie being eaten. Anyway, lets wish Alex Ferguson all the best after we have forced him out of retirement to sort this mess out. My personal opinion is that we are more likely to get Charlie Karole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 He doesn't care and is waiting for a move. To blame this on Jos when FF has always had an attitude problem is just pig ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronxowl Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 hours ago, owls-swfc said: Your absolutely spot-on with that observation.. .. As he wasn't on the pitch until the second half! I meant 2nd half.......for those that couldn’t work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Kopparberg said: Not fully fit, but is our most talented player. Suppose he’s still got a way to go - after a very serious injury. Doubt Jos will have him start against Blackburn either. ... what I’d give to see FF ripping through defenders like he can do. I fear some other championship club will come in Jan offer someat like 3 mill and he will be gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Buxtongent said: So would we all.But this has not happened for a long time.Something is wrong. Either he is not fit or maybe sulking because he is no longer 'the Holy One'. Which ever way, its not good for us. Either he comes up to scratch or we get rid. Or he now has no one to play with and the tactics don't suit his style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, brando said: I fear some other championship club will come in Jan offer someat like 3 mill and he will be gone I agree Jos wants him gone, I only hope we can get someone else in charge who can build round him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfern Froggatt Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 He looked out on his feet at the end of the Derby match as he's had so little game time recently. I suspect he wouldn't have come on last night until 60 - 70 mins if we hadn't been so woeful in the first half. He did look disinterested at times last night though - hopefully he is saving himself for Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Holmowl said: Here’s his starts and subs... FF Starting Pl 6. W0. D3. L3. Pts 3 (plus defeat in Carp Bao Cup) FF Sub Pl 5. W5. D0. L0. Pts 15. Unavailable FF Pl. 8. W1. D2. L5. Pts 5. Hard to argue that Jos isn’t right on this. isn't it as much an argument regarding his fitness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: isn't it as much an argument regarding his fitness? Perfectly possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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