Sonny Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Jos is getting our squad so fit we’ll be like Team Evil in Shaolin Soccer but without the performance enhancing drugs. I can’t wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 All we need now are teams who would like to buy some dead wood. Not too easy if you want to get some decent money off them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, FinnishOwl said: All we need now are teams who would like to buy some dead wood. Not too easy if you want to get some decent money off them. Bolton are desperate, shame they have no money...as is the case with most of the Championship, lots of teams needing to sell before buying and trying to reduce wage costs which means shifting most of the 'dead wood' we have on big wages is next to impossible without taking a financial hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Musn't Grumble said: So we are definitely keeping Abdi... But who are the other two? 1. Nilsson Nielsen 2. Nilsson Nielsen Edited July 13, 2018 by cowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, striker said: Bolton are desperate, shame they have no money...as is the case with most of the Championship, lots of teams needing to sell before buying and trying to reduce wage costs which means shifting most of the 'dead wood' we have on big wages is next to impossible without taking a financial hit. It's mad all this innit Fans being convinced by chairmen that it's essential that ticket prices are so high Ticket prices being raised and raised Replica shirt prices being raised and raised A new breed of uberfan created who defend the price rises of both tickets and shirts Chairman desperate to offload players as they've spent too much and are breaching FFP or are at risk of it Fans shovelling in more and more of their income to football clubs who are all overspending wildly and not succeeding with this strategy Because they don't succeed by mad spending they want to spend more so plead with fans to shovel more and more cash in Meanwhile players and agents just sit back and watch the £££ rolling in as the chairmen scream at the fans to shovel more and more money in It's bonkers Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 The only way we can get by with 25 seniors is if the injury prone are the ones shipped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeBeeky Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I think this season is going to be one of consolidation unfortunately, Jos and DC will be trimming the squad as much as possible without being in dander of relegation, and making do until we can offload many of the players who are undesirable to other teams and out of contract next summer. That's when the squad restructure will start properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Would imagine this 25 won't include all of the 8 academy players that are training with the first team. so it is probably in reality a squad of about 28. Panic over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I’ve never understood huge squads. If we have (say) a wage budget of £10m per year I would rather spread that among 22 quality players than 32 lesser players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Yeah but 22 is a but slim for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy85 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 31 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It's mad all this innit Fans being convinced by chairmen that it's essential that ticket prices are so high Ticket prices being raised and raised Replica shirt prices being raised and raised A new breed of uberfan created who defend the price rises of both tickets and shirts Chairman desperate to offload players as they've spent too much and are breaching FFP or are at risk of it Fans shovelling in more and more of their income to football clubs who are all overspending wildly and not succeeding with this strategy Because they don't succeed by mad spending they want to spend more so plead with fans to shovel more and more cash in Meanwhile players and agents just sit back and watch the £££ rolling in as the chairmen scream at the fans to shovel more and more money in It's bonkers this It's why years ago I wanted caps introducing on wages but it's too little to late now. Players earning £500,000 a week in china. Absolutely mind boggling. £200 million for a player that will probably up for an oscar in the new year. £5 million for Gary Madine!!!! World of football has gone flipping bonkers and as you've mentioned the money we spend has gone through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy85 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OxonOwl said: Yeah but 22 is a but slim for me. stick up and coming acadamy products in their too and it wouldn't be too bad as long as injuries and fatigue are monitored correctly and kept to a minimum Edited July 13, 2018 by mozzy85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 55 minutes ago, airborne_rat_of_s6 said: When I trim down I start with a pair of scissors then use clippers with a comb attachment, so as not to catch me chicken sack. More top tips to be found here later folks. 55 minutes ago, OxonOwl said: I'd like to know how he plans to get rid of the trimmings Who do you mean airborn rat or Jos? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, cowl said: So JL wants to trim the squad to between 2.4 and 2.5 players? Well after Abdi's leg fell off as reported on here last year, that's probably the 0.4 sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Sounds like Jos wants about four moving on, unless he is intent in bringing in a couple in which case he would need to move out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 On paper, a squad of that size is better. Players get more playing time, which improves them (like Dave), there's more cohesion on the pitch, and it's better for morale. But we have a history of injuries second to none ... Gulp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 54 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It's mad all this innit Fans being convinced by chairmen that it's essential that ticket prices are so high Ticket prices being raised and raised Replica shirt prices being raised and raised A new breed of uberfan created who defend the price rises of both tickets and shirts Chairman desperate to offload players as they've spent too much and are breaching FFP or are at risk of it Fans shovelling in more and more of their income to football clubs who are all overspending wildly and not succeeding with this strategy Because they don't succeed by mad spending they want to spend more so plead with fans to shovel more and more cash in Meanwhile players and agents just sit back and watch the £££ rolling in as the chairmen scream at the fans to shovel more and more money in It's bonkers And every time someone says to the chairman about spending some money his excuse is he can't because of FFP, yet there is scope within the rules for him to put more in and also bring in additional sponsorship, advertising and corporate moneys, but due to a pretty poor marketing and PR department we lag behind our near neighbours massively on most of the of field stuff. Any chance there might be a adult male shirt less than £99 before the season starts this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 You hope for 2 players in each position currently we don't have that we need a right back, left back, centre back (poss x2) and a right wing. We need to offload wage wasters in Abdi, Matias, Fletcher and Jones. We need to know if Hutch, Lee, Hooper - will be fit for the start of the season or be able to manage at least 30 games a season - if not all 3 need offloading. Then we also need to decide what is to happen with the goal keepers if Westwood stays then one of Wildsmith or Dawson needs to be loan out for the season, or the good of last season will be wasted on their development, the most obvious place seems to be Rotherham for championship football but close enough that we can keep an eye on him. Other youth players not ready for the first team need loaning out but with stipulation in place that they have to play, the mistakes of Stobbs and Penney last season cannot be allowed to happen this season. A lot of work to do both off and on the pitch and we have 3 weeks to do it, it would not be Wednesday though if we didn't leave everything to the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltby owl83 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Newspaper reports today saying that Jos is saying that he's going to trim the squad right down "I think at the end we will have maybe 24 to 25 players," he said. "Normally, you always have one, two or three players who are maybe injured," Luhukay said. "I hope we don't have the problem we had with injuries last year when I came to Sheffield." Now I know many fans have celebrated this point but I'm wondering what the risks are if our players get injured? If we trim the squad right down and suffer injuries - what then? Its good news for me. We have had a bloated squad for too long. Lets focus on a tight unit of players. 24/25 is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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