The last remaining Chansiri supporters should read this

[Earlsfieldowl]

11 minutes ago, Buck Rogers said:

I'm convinced our facilities have cost us points over the years. Maybe even the difference between relegation and promotion sometimes.

Bannan seems to be the exception but the amount of injuries we get has been a bone of contention for ages.

Darren Moore even started an investigation into what the cause was. Anyone remember the outcome? Can't recall.
Anyways, just seems that the facilities are the common denominator. Especially as we now see the once perma-crocked Luongo and Fletcher hardly missing any games and bouncing around the pitch like young Kangaroos high on life.

Fully expect Windass to be an ever present at whichever club he ends up at next season.

I don’t doubt it - most clubs have developed and moved on in pretty much all respects, stadiums, facilities, training grounds etc

 

For us, the clock pretty much stopped in 1996.

 

Its been a huge issue which no one has been able to resolve.

[HarrowbyOwl]

1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

Danny Röhl on the situation he's in at SWFC: 

 

'As an example we have two grass pitches, but then we have to react to night frost and a failing undersoil heating"

 

"Sheffield Wednesday has a very slim structure: It's the chairman, who is also the owner of the club, and then there's me. All decisions are made between the two of us. I'm involved in all transfers, all contract extensions, booking hotels. I have to sign off on it all. This short chain of command is, on the one hand, good to get things done quickly; but it's a lot of work"

 

 

That's just a small tiny fraction of the conditions Röhl is forced to work under at our club

 

Honestly if you STILL back the current custodian of this football club then I can no explain your approach to it other than you've been misled by other fans, you've not seen the truth, or you are just unwilling to even after being presented with the facts.

It doesn't have to be this way

Chansiri OUT (and the sooner the better)

Compare that to a real example of the structure of a major football club 

  

[pat blondeau]

1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

Danny Röhl on the situation he's in at SWFC: 

 

'As an example we have two grass pitches, but then we have to react to night frost and a failing undersoil heating"

 

"Sheffield Wednesday has a very slim structure: It's the chairman, who is also the owner of the club, and then there's me. All decisions are made between the two of us. I'm involved in all transfers, all contract extensions, booking hotels. I have to sign off on it all. This short chain of command is, on the one hand, good to get things done quickly; but it's a lot of work"

 

 

That's just a small tiny fraction of the conditions Röhl is forced to work under at our club

 

Honestly if you STILL back the current custodian of this football club then I can no explain your approach to it other than you've been misled by other fans, you've not seen the truth, or you are just unwilling to even after being presented with the facts.

It doesn't have to be this way

Chansiri OUT (and the sooner the better)

 

 

This is taken from the same interview too.

 

Interviewer:

 

‘Are you going to stay at Sheffield Wednesday regardless of your divisional status?’

 

Danny Röhl:

‘Until May 5 and at the moment I’m fully focused on the current season, so it ends the way we want it to. Then we’ll sit down and assess the situation.’

After reading that interview it doesn’t sound like Röhl sees himself at Wednesday for the long term 

[@owlstalk]

Just now, pat blondeau said:

 

 

This is taken from the same interview too.

 

Interviewer:

 

‘Are you going to stay at Sheffield Wednesday regardless of your divisional status?’

 

Danny Röhl:

‘Until May 5 and at the moment I’m fully focused on the current season, so it ends the way we want it to. Then we’ll sit down and assess the situation.’

After reading that interview it doesn’t sound like Röhl sees himself at Wednesday for the long term 

Agreed

 

[nethertonowl]

42 minutes ago, Miffed said:

It’s there…. It’s right there in black and white, plain to see…

 

This club is not set up to succeed 

 

 

And yet some people are so blind that they can’t see it,

Given the budget of the club, and the penny pinching in ever area of its administration , it highlights just how much we overpay players. Now wonder some love it here. 

[Buck Rogers]

6 minutes ago, Earlsfieldowl said:

For us, the clock pretty much stopped in 1996.

Really hits home when you see that.

Trapped in the amber for almost 30 years whilst other clubs go into admin, lose their grounds, drop into the fourth division yet still manage to eventually overtake us.

 

Absolutely disgraceful.

Change can't come about fast enough.

[lukeyswfc]

Röhl has made mistakes, yes, but how can anyone think sheffield Wednesday are run competently?

 

The structure of just Chansiri and Röhl signing off on everything is non league standard.

 

Off the pitch we are atrociously ran.

 

All by a man who charges us the most, expects the most, and provided the least

[Howmanyowls]

Those thinking Röhl is making excuses are avoiding the point this discussion is about. There are plenty of threads to discuss the tactics, formation, etc yesterday. The main point is that Ipswich are where they are due to sound investment and a clear plan. We don't have a plan. Chansiri had a plan, and it blew up in his face. There was no back-up and still isn't one. He needs to go as he is not willing to invest. Is he just propping us up in the hope of a miracle?

[adelphi1867]

1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

Danny Röhl on the situation he's in at SWFC: 

 

'As an example we have two grass pitches, but then we have to react to night frost and a failing undersoil heating"

 

"Sheffield Wednesday has a very slim structure: It's the chairman, who is also the owner of the club, and then there's me. All decisions are made between the two of us. I'm involved in all transfers, all contract extensions, booking hotels. I have to sign off on it all. This short chain of command is, on the one hand, good to get things done quickly; but it's a lot of work"

 

 

That's just a small tiny fraction of the conditions Röhl is forced to work under at our club

 

Honestly if you STILL back the current custodian of this football club then I can no explain your approach to it other than you've been misled by other fans, you've not seen the truth, or you are just unwilling to even after being presented with the facts.

It doesn't have to be this way

Chansiri OUT (and the sooner the better)

Agree 100%

[striker]

Chansiri has killed the club, probably why I've been so quiet on here, because it's hard to care anymore. 

 

Whatever brief periods of hope are created will just be undone and deliberately sabotaged, to the extent it's pointless.

 

Chansiri has no money left, what he has spent has been wasted and still he stubbornly hangs around where he isn't wanted.

 

Everything at the club is done to the bare minimum, with no foresight or evidence of planning. Facilities are crumbling and no football infrastructure in place, which even L2 clubs would consider essential.

 

As for Röhl, I think he's already proved himself a good manager at the level, with potential to be an excellent manager in the not too distant future. I don't expect him to be here next season, which is another reason its hard to become invested in this abhorrent version of our football club. 

 

40 odd years ago would the 5 year old me going to his first match fall in love with Chansiri's Wednesday? No, not a chance, notwithstanding my Dad wouldn't have been able to afford tickets, it is no longer the family club I fell in love with and looked forward to going to. I have fond memories which I can hang on to, but the current incarnation leaves me numb.

 

Ultimately, there is no hope under Chansiri and without hope, there is no future.

 

 

 

 

[Jim]

As usual after a defeat and obviously in this case a big one, there is a meltdown of sorts. 
 

Usually the manager is the target for this and for some he has been. The mantra being this is what he did, this is what he should’ve done, acts like this should be brought to the attention of the world and utterly, utterly CONDEMNED.

 

Thing is the man being lambasted from pillar to post has worked for the biggest club in Germany plus the German National Team so you’d think he knows what he’s doing. Most on here would take the Dog and Duck to the Roysl Oak and get totally out thought by the footballing mastermind that is Steve Bracknall.

 

As I’ve said a few times we should be where Rotherham are but we aren’t because of our current manager who is currently managing the professional version of the Dog and Duck and despite some days like yesterday very well too.

 

Every Now and Then a Manager turns up and transforms a football club and that manager defines that club’s history. Shankly at Liverpool, Sir Matt at Man Utd, Revie at Leeds, Nicholson at Spurs, Cloughie at both Derby and Forest and to a lesser extent, Big Ron here and Bassett across the City.

 

We currently have in place potentially one of those managers and what he simply highlighted yesterday was what we need to make the progress he obviously feels we can make. Many have read it as message to the chairman and some ways it probably is but it could easily be a message to the parties out there who are interested in a buying a football club?

 

Thing is the focus now as to be on the last 8 games and trying to secure our championship future. We succeed in doing this and then the fun will begin.

[@owlstalk]

Just now, Jim said:

 

 

Every Now and Then a Manager turns up and transforms a football club and that manager defines that club’s history. Shankly at Liverpool, Sir Matt at Man Utd, Revie at Leeds, Nicholson at Spurs, Cloughie at both Derby and Forest and to a lesser extent, Big Ron here and Bassett across the City. 

Garry Monk at SWFC

 

 

[WalthamOwl]

Sell up and get out Chansiri. Club is a shambles. Only good thing we have is Röhl and I will be shocked if he is here next season. 

[Jim]

2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

Garry Monk at SWFC

 

 

I’m sure Cambridge Fans agree with this.

[SheffWed]

The simple think is, people just don’t want to see what’s starring them in the face.

 

It’s easier to bury your head in the sand, than really look at the way the club is being run.

 

The 1867 group still get battered for wanting better, we should be getting better.

 

9 years of DC and some still think he is doing a decent job, everyone knows the list of things we’ve ‘achieved’ under his watch, yet still that’s not enough people that blindly support him.

[WalthamOwl]

34 minutes ago, pat blondeau said:

 

 

This is taken from the same interview too.

 

Interviewer:

 

‘Are you going to stay at Sheffield Wednesday regardless of your divisional status?’

 

Danny Röhl:

‘Until May 5 and at the moment I’m fully focused on the current season, so it ends the way we want it to. Then we’ll sit down and assess the situation.’

After reading that interview it doesn’t sound like Röhl sees himself at Wednesday for the long term 

he will have seen just how pathetically the club is run and what a clueless dangerous man Chansiri is and he will leave one way or another at the end of the season. 

[Yorkowl.74]

1 hour ago, matthefish2002 said:

Doesn't Röhl have a secretary to book hotels, do the general administration work etc?

Sounds like Rohls role is similar to how managers used to be 30 years ago.

 

He forgot to mention about cleaning all the boots and washing kit

[Rogers]

I bet dealing with Chansiri on everything is painful…taking to a guy that doesn’t understand the basics of the sport, the people, the industry, etc. and knowing full well he holds the only and final decision on everything. 
 

 

[owlinexile]

1 hour ago, JohnnyQuinnsQuiff said:

Should we inform the people who we’re upgrading to, before waving these magic wands? Otherwise they might not be too pleased waking up and finding they now own SWFC.

 

Let’s also hope that we’re all ‘wishing for’ the same upgrade as well, when we wave those wands. Otherwise it could be chaos!

 

Be CaReFuL WhAt YoU WiSh FoR

[Inspector Lestrade]

Get a YTS lass thirty-five quid a week.  He can be home for dinner.