SwintonLad99 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 The last relegation place (22nd) 2014-2015- 41pts 2015-2016- 40pts 2016-2017- 51pts 2017-2018-41pts 2018-2019- 40pts 2019-2020- 48pts *49pts if you exclude Wigans point deduction. I think to be safe this season, we will need to finish on 45+pts. I think this season relegation battle is weaker than last season. We have 37 games left, I KNOW times are tough at the moment, but nothing is won or lost in the first 9 games of the season. So, the question is: Which manager out there who will come to Wednesday, can get us at least 49points out of 37 games if Monk was to be sacked? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WalthamOwl Posted November 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2020 Imo we should do everything possible to get Pearson. 16 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post matt68owls Posted November 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2020 I did some Maths and it didn't add up why Garry Monk still has a job. 13 1 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Think the mountain to climb has been made impossible with the last three performances and results. Confidence and the ability to play has been shot to pieces. Argue that three points earned now, earlier in the season would add to confidence. Don't agree that the season is won or last in the first 9 games - think the start of the season has defined our demise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, SwintonLad99 said: The last relegation place (22nd) 2014-2015- 41pts 2015-2016- 40pts 2016-2017- 51pts 2017-2018-41pts 2018-2019- 40pts 2019-2020- 48pts *49pts if you exclude Wigans point deduction. I think to be safe this season, we will need to finish on 45+pts. I think this season relegation battle is weaker than last season. We have 37 games left, I KNOW times are tough at the moment, but nothing is won or lost in the first 9 games of the season. So, the question is: Which manager out there who will come to Wednesday, can get us at least 49points out of 37 games if Monk was to be sacked? Agree that there is plenty still to play for but with 3 games a week, those games/points will soon disappear and under the current management, tactics and form we don’t look capable of achieving this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Still a chance with a change of manager. Monk ain’t turning this around now, no chance. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 This season was lost between Xmas & the end of last season when yet again DC failed to see the blindingly obvious & take the necessary action to get rid of Monk. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Feel like it will be too late. We should have got rid of Monk last season. A new manager bounce will give us a brief spark, a proven manager will give us a fighting chance. It feels a tall order even for a proven quality manager. DC really needs to act ASAP and axe Monk but it will take even more than that, we need to sort ourselves out on and off the pitch. However, none of that excuses Monk's pitiful record ever since last Christmas. Which is why he should have been axed before this season even started. For too long DC has been making mistakes, the set up is poor to say the least, recruitment; scouting, the academy, coaching staff, the whole lot needs smartening up. Most of all DC needs to bring in football minded people to help him run the club, a CEO and/or a DOF. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sova Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 You cannot deduce how many points a team will get over a season from the number of points earned by that team in its first 9 games, and the same goes with regard to positions. Because teams have runs of form; they might have a terrible run of 9 games at the start, but generally they don't repeat that form for the rest of the season. For example, last season's bottom 3 at this stage were Stoke and Huddersfield, each with 2 points from 9 games, and Barnsley with 5. That's worse than the teams at the bottom this season, and if they'd carried on like that Stoke and Huddersfield would have got about 10 points, and Barnsley would have got about 25. But in the end the teams relegated went down with relatively high totals. Just because Forest have got 6 points from their first 9 games, that certainly doesn't mean they're going to get less than 40 points, let alone the 30 or so their current points average would work out over a season. To take another example, Derby also have 6 points from 9 games, the same as they had in 2016/17. They finished that season with 67 points. The team 4th-bottom after 9 games that season were Cardiff with 8 points. They finished the season with 62 points. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 I think there is a fair chance that at least three Championship clubs will enter administration this season which should, in theory, even out the points deduction. However, it being the Wednesday way, it is also predictable that the administration points deduction will be relaxed because there are extenuating circumstances, namely that the administration resulted from factors other than financial mismanagement thus could not be avoided. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 There's a few managers out there who could do better Imo. But we're not allowed to discuss them as herr Hargreaves says they're clichéd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 The last time we looked dead & buried Stuart Gray took the reins & lead us sweetly & boringly to the beautiful comfort of mid table mediocrity. The season isn’t over but we need to find someone to do a similar job. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOwl Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, SwintonLad99 said: The last relegation place (22nd) 2014-2015- 41pts 2015-2016- 40pts 2016-2017- 51pts 2017-2018-41pts 2018-2019- 40pts 2019-2020- 48pts *49pts if you exclude Wigans point deduction. I think to be safe this season, we will need to finish on 45+pts. I think this season relegation battle is weaker than last season. We have 37 games left, I KNOW times are tough at the moment, but nothing is won or lost in the first 9 games of the season. So, the question is: Which manager out there who will come to Wednesday, can get us at least 49points out of 37 games if Monk was to be sacked? Sadly, I’m not sure this will be the case. Some of the teams we thought would get few points are picking up more than expected. Teams like dingles, rovrum, Luton, udders and coventry. Hope I’m wrong though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwintonLad99 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, GLOwl said: Sadly, I’m not sure this will be the case. Some of the teams we thought would get few points are picking up more than expected. Teams like dingles, rovrum, Luton, udders and coventry. Hope I’m wrong though. Im hoping it is just a purple patch, i don't think they will keep up the form. I don't think Monk is the right man, however i don't see which manager will come and manager us during these times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkstone Owl Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Not to be pessimistic but no-one will touch us with a barge pole look how long it took to appoint Monk in the first place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwintonLad99 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, Silkstone Owl said: Not to be pessimistic but no-one will touch us with a barge pole look how long it took to appoint Monk in the first place Exactly my point matey, it's a tough pill to swallow but i think we will be forced to wait and see if he can turn things around. I am not monk OUT or In, i do think hes done bad, but with every manager ill support them and the team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Silkstone Owl said: Not to be pessimistic but no-one will touch us with a barge pole look how long it took to appoint Monk in the first place Not really...he was the last resort. Others wanted too much money or control or both. If he had been the first option he would have had the job within 20mins. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Our form has been wretched since Christmas Day There's been a few in place that have remained all the way through this tereeble run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Look on the bright side, there may be a few clubs go into admin while football continues without fans. Although they'll probably change the rules so they escape the instant points deduction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 The only certainty is that Monk isn't going to achieve the necessary points. With a new manager at least there is a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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