gurujuan Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, 83owl said: I still think we need a dedicated DM. Luongo hasn’t had the best of times with us injury wise and brown has had injury problems in the past. If we are playing 3 in midfield I would want at least 4 first team quality players. At the minute one injury/suspension etc and you are down to replacing them with lesser players (joey, Palmer?) or the kids. I wouldn’t disagree with that pal, but that doesn’t look like it’s Monk’s thinking. He gambled on us not needing such a player when he decided to leave Hutchinson out. When the results started to go pear shaped, there didn’t appear to be any inclination to bring one in, in that January window. We were linked with the big German guy, but since then I’ve not seen any reports linking us with such a player. For what it’s worth, I’d be happier with such a player in the mix, mainly because I’ve witnessed the consequences of not having one. Having said that, Luongo, Brown and Bannan, looks a very decent midfield three, especially when we have the ball. As you say though, injuries could be a worry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, 83owl said: Problem is one injury and we will be expecting one of them to play 10-20 games on the bounce and be up to first team standard straight away, I don’t think that’s realistic. Regarding a DM It only takes an attack down the wing to make one of the CBs shift over to cover to potentially leave us short in the middle of they have runners coming through. I would always start with one. Reach needs to deliver this season...he takes a spot. Exactly, one cb is pulled wide, two to cover the centre. It doesn’t matter if you’re a defensive or attacking midfielder, midfielders always have to track midfielders runs. The whole point of Monks philosophy is that we have a dynamic team. An interpretation of that is that players have the legs to track their players. Good teams both defend and attack as a unit, therefore not needing insurance players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Let’s be honest, our business so far has been encouraging. The problem is the lack of it. Who replaces Bannan if he gets injured? We’re five years on from the play offs and, still don’t own a decent left back. Penney is very much a prospect but, a complete novice at this level. 1 first team striker on the books. How many other clubs in the division are in that boat? 2 goalkeepers fighting for the number 1 shirt, neither of which would be number 1 anywhere else in the division. Nobody really knows the in and outs of the club so, it’s hard to pinpoint blame. To find ourselves 5 days away from the season starting with a squad as thin on the ground as ours is massively worrying. The main frustration is, if we’d have recruited quickly, the foundations the likes of Iorfa, Borner, Lees, Bannan, Luongo and Brown give us, would be more than enough to avoid a relegation battle. As it stands, a couple of early injuries and we’re going to struggle. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I wouldn’t disagree with that pal, but that doesn’t look like it’s Monk’s thinking. He gambled on us not needing such a player when he decided to leave Hutchinson out. When the results started to go pear shaped, there didn’t appear to be any inclination to bring one in, in that January window. We were linked with the big German guy, but since then I’ve not seen any reports linking us with such a player. For what it’s worth, I’d be happier with such a player in the mix, mainly because I’ve witnessed the consequences of not having one. Having said that, Luongo, Brown and Bannan, looks a very decent midfield three, especially when we have the ball. As you say though, injuries could be a worry Yes but on the flip side, if we have to rely on Pelupessy for long spells in the side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 The star understands Windass deal should be completed by the weekend. They also say Windass might not be enough upfront! Jesus Christ you think! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 0wl18 said: Let’s be honest, our business so far has been encouraging. The problem is the lack of it. Who replaces Bannan if he gets injured? We’re five years on from the play offs and, still don’t own a decent left back. Penney is very much a prospect but, a complete novice at this level. 1 first team striker on the books. How many other clubs in the division are in that boat? 2 goalkeepers fighting for the number 1 shirt, neither of which would be number 1 anywhere else in the division. Nobody really knows the in and outs of the club so, it’s hard to pinpoint blame. To find ourselves 5 days away from the season starting with a squad as thin on the ground as ours is massively worrying. The main frustration is, if we’d have recruited quickly, the foundations the likes of Iorfa, Borner, Lees, Bannan, Luongo and Brown give us, would be more than enough to avoid a relegation battle. As it stands, a couple of early injuries and we’re going to struggle. Regarding cover for Bannan, I’d like to see us follow through on our previous interest in young Holland. He was excellent at Oxford last season, playing either as a winger, or a wide midfielder. Could be a good long term replacement for Bannan. Basically we have some back up strength in the two areas where we are currently strong at first team level. Yeah we could upgrade a few of those, but we do currently have options in reserve for midfield and centre of defence. At wing back, we also have a few options, but here it’s a case of needing better quality. Up front is the real issue though, at first team level, and back up, the cupboard is bare Edited August 31, 2020 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, 0wl18 said: Let’s be honest, our business so far has been encouraging. The problem is the lack of it. Who replaces Bannan if he gets injured? We’re five years on from the play offs and, still don’t own a decent left back. Penney is very much a prospect but, a complete novice at this level. 1 first team striker on the books. How many other clubs in the division are in that boat? 2 goalkeepers fighting for the number 1 shirt, neither of which would be number 1 anywhere else in the division. Nobody really knows the in and outs of the club so, it’s hard to pinpoint blame. To find ourselves 5 days away from the season starting with a squad as thin on the ground as ours is massively worrying. The main frustration is, if we’d have recruited quickly, the foundations the likes of Iorfa, Borner, Lees, Bannan, Luongo and Brown give us, would be more than enough to avoid a relegation battle. As it stands, a couple of early injuries and we’re going to struggle. Throw in we’ve played 45 mins of competitive football in preseason and you can hear the hamstrings and pulled muscles warming. Made me howl when the commentator on Saturday was saying how far ahead we were in terms of preparation. Leicester’s second pre season game. Our only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 As a minimum surely got to be looking at 2 strikers and windass 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said: As a minimum surely got to be looking at 2 strikers and windass I really do hope so, we have to be surely. Windass isn’t imo what you would class as a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said: As a minimum surely got to be looking at 2 strikers and windass By the start of the season, definitely, with perhaps another couple coming before the window closes Bolster up the U23s strikers as well, so at least we can always have a couple of strikers on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 dont worry too much about this weekend. Cardiff is when we need to be prepared for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, modboy said: dont worry too much about this weekend. Cardiff is when we need to be prepared for. It does feel like a pre season game, the way its scheduled. Ideally, we need Windass and at least another forward in for a few days of training to play a part this weekend in preparation for Cardiff. This then takes the pressure off finding another forward a little before the end of the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Brentford complete Toney signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, modboy said: dont worry too much about this weekend. Cardiff is when we need to be prepared for. we do but the new signings need a good week or so to get up to speed etc. Absolutely crazy we are so close to the season starting and we still have 1 striker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Not convinced at all with the prospect of Windass signing. To go from the likes of Hooper, FF, Joao and Fletcher to just Rhodes and Windass? I just can't believe it, I really can't? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: Brentford complete Toney signing. At least we know that somebody is working on Bank Holiday. It always seems with Wednesday, and most other clubs I suppose, that if deals aren’t done by the Thursday, they won’t be done for the next few days. Friday, clubs are preparing for the game, Saturday the day of the game, Sunday’s and Bank holiday Monday’s, stuff rarely gets done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Sooner we get them in the better to get them up to speed and get to know the lads etc , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Guru mate, do you ever go out, you're on every page, I'm beginning to think you're a bot If we do sign a striker, we need one as prolific as Guru 1 3 Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: Guru mate, do you ever go out, you're on every page, I'm beginning to think you're a bot If we do sign a striker, we need one as prolific as Guru But it’s dangerous out there 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, gurujuan said: At least we know that somebody is working on Bank Holiday. It always seems with Wednesday, and most other clubs I suppose, that if deals aren’t done by the Thursday, they won’t be done for the next few days. Friday, clubs are preparing for the game, Saturday the day of the game, Sunday’s and Bank holiday Monday’s, stuff rarely gets done. It was probably sorted days ago. Especially considering Peterborough bought Clarke Harris a few days ago which they wouldn't have done if Toney deal wasn't done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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