Flat Owl Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Why keep it simple when you have a BB in your side who can hit Hollywood balls whenever he wants. BB relies on mobile players making themselves available for a pass. Without Lee or FF, we have lost those darting runs that were the hallmark of this team in CCs first year. BBs stagnation imo is down the complete lack of mobility this side now has in the final 3rd..apart from the odd Fletch/BB combo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, FreshOwl said: Without bannan? not sitting ridiculously deep. Different ideas for set pieces, midfielders in their rightful positions tin hat on No Alamo at the end and silly free kicks from sliding tackles either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Prefer to concentrate on how good the lads that played in the middle were today. Pelupessy, Luongo and Lee were terrific and disciplined in giving us the platform today. So perfect for Leeds away then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassy knoll Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I think it’s more shape/formation than just blaming bannan but do agree he plays too deep, when we play 442, whoever plays alongside Fletcher isn’t good enough and the midfield 4 don’t get anywhere near the front 2 . With what we’ve got id prefer to play 5 in midfield and use FF ( if he ever gets ) to get in and around fletcher, until we overhaul the squad in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 We've played well loads of times when bannan doesn't play Some people are so far up his ar5e they don't wanna face it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, FreshOwl said: Without bannan? not sitting ridiculously deep. Different ideas for set pieces, midfielders in their rightful positions tin hat on So you think playing a central 3 has nothing to do with it ? Or with Fletcher back leading the line like nobody else at the club can do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Whilst I get what the OP is saying to an extent is there any other fanbase that does what we do on a regular basis?....ie as soon as a talented game changing player becomes a fan favourite (Brunt, Antonio,Forestieri, Bannan) its like there is a section that just can`t wait to start picking holes and put the knife in. Already in this thread he has been called a "luxury player" and "wee billy big Boll***s" , and whilst he is not immune to the odd bad display, looking back over the last 2 years I have lost count of the number of times we have stank the place out as a team and he has been virtually the ONLY player on the pitch wearing an owl on his chest that has looked remotely like he gives a f***. The fact of the matter is (ref the OP) we look better with a midfield 3 rather than a two, and if we are picking our best 3 midfielders and anyone is suggesting that BB isnt one of them then I despair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Big fan of BB but today we looked much more of a “team” imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, sheriwozgod said: Whilst I get what the OP is saying to an extent is there any other fanbase that does what we do on a regular basis?....ie as soon as a talented game changing player becomes a fan favourite (Brunt, Antonio,Forestieri, Bannan) its like there is a section that just can`t wait to start picking holes and put the knife in. Already in this thread he has been called a "luxury player" and "wee billy big Boll***s" , and whilst he is not immune to the odd bad display, looking back over the last 2 years I have lost count of the number of times we have stank the place out as a team and he has been virtually the ONLY player on the pitch wearing an owl on his chest that has looked remotely like he gives a f***. The fact of the matter is (ref the OP) we look better with a midfield 3 rather than a two, and if we are picking our best 3 midfielders and anyone is suggesting that BB isnt one of them then I despair. Here Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Prefer to concentrate on how good the lads that played in the middle were today. Pelupessy, Luongo and Lee were terrific and disciplined in giving us the platform today. That’s exactly what this thread is about!!! But it’s seems people are contempt on starting rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, sMacLean said: Several times now we have played better without him. He is a luxury player. How many games has he missed prior to today? The league game at Blackburn where we barely strung 2 passes together was one....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, FreshOwl said: Without bannan? not sitting ridiculously deep. Different ideas for set pieces, midfielders in their rightful positions tin hat on He needs using slightly differently and managing. At the minute he does what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, FreshOwl said: Without bannan? not sitting ridiculously deep. Different ideas for set pieces, midfielders in their rightful positions tin hat on Different formation with extra man in midfield today made the difference plus Hutch not standing next to our centre backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, sheriwozgod said: Whilst I get what the OP is saying to an extent is there any other fanbase that does what we do on a regular basis?....ie as soon as a talented game changing player becomes a fan favourite (Brunt, Antonio,Forestieri, Bannan) its like there is a section that just can`t wait to start picking holes and put the knife in. Already in this thread he has been called a "luxury player" and "wee billy big Boll***s" , and whilst he is not immune to the odd bad display, looking back over the last 2 years I have lost count of the number of times we have stank the place out as a team and he has been virtually the ONLY player on the pitch wearing an owl on his chest that has looked remotely like he gives a f***. The fact of the matter is (ref the OP) we look better with a midfield 3 rather than a two, and if we are picking our best 3 midfielders and anyone is suggesting that BB isnt one of them then I despair. Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 No, it’s because we don’t play Hutch next to him Lee and Luongo were so good today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) It’s all Bannans fault Edited January 4, 2020 by BIG D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 is r nilsson Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, StudentOwl said: 4-3-3. It works. Spot on. This is why the shape worked today. Reach given some freedom, Lee and Luongo add some quality with room to play and both overlap, and Fletch plays that central role as well as anyone with the right players around him. Bazza in a 3 is also a better player and he doesn’t ruin the shape. I don’t understand the clamour for a 442 unless it’s a team like Boro that can’t defend crosses. Most teams in the championship have 2 thugs at ch so the trick is to use the channels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Where was bannan anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, fingyfop said: Because we have managed it without Bannan before, he only gets dragged too deep consistently when playing with Hutchinson. Most of the time he sends it long he has no simple options for 15 yard forward passes or the like, our movement in attack is very limited. He doesn’t do it just when hutch is playing, Bannan drops deep every time he’s on the pitch, regardless of whose partnering him. The whole point of the post was to praise today’s team for looking more gelled and intricate, but a lot of posters just misinterpret or are gagging for an argument 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, fingyfop said: Most of the time he sends it long he has no simple options for 15 yard forward passes or the like, Because as a creative / attacking midfielder Bannan should be providing simple options for 15 yard forward passes for the centre backs or defensive midfielders not dropping deep and filling their space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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