Mr Hooper Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Would love to see the stats behind this, most of our bad form last season came when these 3 weren't playing. When they play, we win more, it's simple. We're almost falling back into that now, when you drop even 2 of these players our form just dips. They're winners and get us results. I could start bashing Monk for his selection and tactics, but i'll leave that for now... This is more a shout to the players, we need more players to step up and become winners. Players like Bannan, Reach, Lees, Fox, Luongo, and Harris they need to take more responsibility and get us the points. I do understand it would be easier for the midfielders if we had two strikers on the pitch to pass too, but still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Cant agree more and this should be our spine. I must admit I agree with Dropping Westwood at the moment he has been dropping clangers and Dawson is a good keeper but I good team has a good spine who plays most games - ours should be: GK - Westwood CB - Iorfa CM - Hutchinson CF - Forestieri Build the team round that and integrate Dawson to be taking over from Westwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 The problem is our strongest spine has backache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Haven't Westwood and Hutchinson been playing regularly in recent defeats? Last night was a draw as far as I know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeadonowl Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Hutchinson and Westwood wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference last night We created loads of chances but couldn't finish. That is the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, yeadonowl said: Hutchinson and Westwood wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference last night We created loads of chances but couldn't finish. That is the problem Dominated possession, 24 shots (I think), 5 on target and drew 1-1 although could quite easily have won the game at the death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Westwood and Hutch have played in most games. Westwood has cost us points on two or three occasions. Tbf, Cam could have set up an armchair last night such was the lack of pressure on our goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I'd love to move on from these players who joined us in 2013/14 2014/15 and 2015/16. I can't think of another team in league football that still needs the same spine that it had 5-6 years ago. Yes. 5 to 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I thought the midfield looked a lot better lat night with Lee and Luongo in. Controlled the game first half, kept the ball better and broke into the final 3rd a lot quicker and more frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Hooper said: Would love to see the stats behind this, most of our bad form last season came when these 3 weren't playing. When they play, we win more, it's simple. We're almost falling back into that now, when you drop even 2 of these players our form just dips. They're winners and get us results. I could start bashing Monk for his selection and tactics, but i'll leave that for now... This is more a shout to the players, we need more players to step up and become winners. Players like Bannan, Reach, Lees, Fox, Luongo, and Harris they need to take more responsibility and get us the points. I do understand it would be easier for the midfielders if we had two strikers on the pitch to pass too, but still. FF’s last 16 starts = 2 wins. One of them we scored our only goal after he was subbed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 All played in the playoff final defeat against Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 We have been experiencing a severe hangover since the play-off final and we simply have to move on. Westwood, Hutch and Forestieri are very good players but I think with, the exception of Forestieri, it is long overdue that we need to freshen up those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Kameron said: All played in the playoff final defeat against Hull. Yep... The spine of the side hasn't changed. Not great, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: Yep... The spine of the side hasn't changed. Not great, is it? Nope, as stated above things needed freshening up, here we are 3.5 years later and 7 from that side are still getting regular game time, Palmer is still here too. That's 8 players that in 3.5 years have also now aged, there's no wonder we're stagnating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acquiescefc Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Westwood is statistically our best keeper in decades. Think we need to look at why teams are running rings round us when they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SwellOwl said: We have been experiencing a severe hangover since the play-off final and we simply have to move on. Westwood, Hutch and Forestieri are very good players but I think with, the exception of Forestieri, it is long overdue that we need to freshen up those areas. Personally I would include Forestieri and add Bannan to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I think we've all lost our marbles. Just isnt any raw potential in our squad. Any team full of young lads will cause us problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaco Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Apart from Barnsley, those kids passed it around at back and lost it Iorfa has raw potential The rest are good players, but not the unbridled I'm gunna be an England player one day sort of mentality or age. Harris and Fox are a bit younger and have had some decent ratings this season We still have a good core of players that we've found hard to improve upon - I'm not one to call for youth and think players can carry on for longer than some would have you believe, but they aren't going to last forever. I still think we've got a chance this year if we perform to our best and use the players we do have to their full potential Edited November 28, 2019 by jomaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Certainly agree hutch should play ...no problem with FF if on the left .....westwood in his present form no thanks ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 We just need to sign a goalscorer and hope that all of our decent chances fall to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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