Ian_D Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said: haha we decided not to go been to enough of these games to know people wont agree with me but id scrap the league cup. no championship team will win it and there's no prestige in getting to the quarters. Think to make this cup worthwhile, Prem teams should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, SiJ said: We did attempt to win the game. Arguably, we had the better chances. But yeah, it wasn't our strongest team. We are hardly unique in putting league before the cups. We didn't give ourselves the best chance of winning the game that's the difference that's why we are supposed to be professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, Ian_D said: Think to make this cup worthwhile, Prem teams should be banned Yea I was thinking that. I bet when Man City won it it just gave a chance for some fans to visit Wembley when they might have struggled to get tickets for the FA cup visits. And they could still put out a second string and still win the match They never stop moaning that they play too many games as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, full fathom five said: People are talking like it's a given, what if we lose on Saturday? How does that make last night's team selection look? The result on Saturday is irrelevant. Doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong in doing what you can to increase the chance of winning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: How many right arms do you have? Or do you mean you would have given someone else's? My brothers. He wouldn't have been able to maul at Bannan after we scored then ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: How many right arms do you have? Or do you mean you would have given someone else's? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ian_D said: Think to make this cup worthwhile, Prem teams should be banned Or teams in European competitions shouldn’t take part. It would help them with their own fixture congestion and ensure the big 6 clubs at the time aren’t in the league cup. Or have a PL league cup and put the championship clubs into the Johnstone’s paint trophy or whatever it’s called now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, SiJ said: Yes, but we arguably give ourselves a better chance by resting a few for Saturday. Football management is about taking gambles. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Gary Monk isn't going to sit there and be worrying about a hypothetical scenario where we lose both games. Right or wrong, we, like most clubs, will prioritise the league. That's just how it goes. We've nothing to prioritise for - it's ridiculous. Anyone would think we've got a title decider on Saturday - I would much rather us win last night then beat middlesborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, full fathom five said: People are talking like it's a given, what if we lose on Saturday? How does that make last night's team selection look? If we lose, so be it. At least we gave ourselves the best possible chance of winning by resting key players. Bannan, Fletcher, and Hutchinson are now of an age where sat'dy Tuesday sat'dy will break them. Certain players do need protecting from themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 41 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said: But i'd have given a right arm to beat Fulham last Saturday. So long as it isn't Winnall's right arm. It's the only one he's got left. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, wilyfox said: Not sure I agree. Everton had another gear if they needed it. anyone who was there when and how fast they they scored their second must surely have thought (well i did) this could be a terrible score thankfully they just didnt engage top gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said: haha we decided not to go been to enough of these games to know people wont agree with me but id scrap the league cup. no championship team will win it and there's no prestige in getting to the quarters. I know mate, and no mediocre premier League team will ever win the league and no former Stocksbridge park steels player will ever win Premier League player of the season.. What's the point of it all? Edited September 25, 2019 by keepitsteel89 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, newbster said: I get where your coming from but I would still say it was the right decision... Gives us every chance of beating 'boro' with a rested team of course your right nothing is a given Monk said he wanted to give fringe players a chance to impress and put themselves in the gaffers plans. Pointless risking losing one of the pivitol cogs of the side for a few weeks in this totally de-valued mickey mouse, camel hump cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, ka58 said: We've nothing to prioritise for - it's ridiculous. Anyone would think we've got a title decider on Saturday - I would much rather us win last night then beat middlesborough. Are you on crack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, full fathom five said: People are talking like it's a given, what if we lose on Saturday? How does that make last night's team selection look? I don't think were taking it as a given, but its common sense that we have more chance of winning Saturday when some of the first team have had a few extra days rest and we haven't added any injuries to the list. Also the "first" teamers who come in on Saturday wont have been part of the team that lost last night so their confidence should still be high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardo Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Over the course of a season we will get injuries and suspensions (Sam and Barry spring to mind) so will need these "fringe" players to be ready to step up Games like this are a god-send for managers in our league with two players for every position. Remember the comments GM made about the Bury game........ Similar sized crowd to league games gives it that bit of an edge compared to U23's etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, full fathom five said: People are talking like it's a given, what if we lose on Saturday? How does that make last night's team selection look? He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t . If Harris , Börner , and fletcher has all got knocks he’d be getting pelt for not resting players . Instead Luongo , Pelupessy , winnall and nuihu got vital minutes, making them sharper when called upon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, HIGHERSTATE said: haha we decided not to go been to enough of these games to know people wont agree with me but id scrap the league cup. no championship team will win it and there's no prestige in getting to the quarters. 40 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: Or teams in European competitions shouldn’t take part. It would help them with their own fixture congestion and ensure the big 6 clubs at the time aren’t in the league cup. Or have a PL league cup and put the championship clubs into the Johnstone’s paint trophy or whatever it’s called now Can't agree with this, how is it any different to how the League Cup has been for decades? When was the last time a team outside the top flight won it? Having the big teams that play in Europe is part of the attraction, especially for young supporters. Arsenal were Champions League regulars when we beat them in 2015, one of the most enjoyable and memorable games outside play-offs in many years at Hillsborough. Pretty sure Colchester fans were happy to draw Spurs rather than a Burnley or a Newcastle even before their result yesterday as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, james o connor said: He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t . If Harris , Börner , and fletcher has all got knocks he’d be getting pelt for not resting players . Instead Luongo , Pelupessy , winnall and nuihu got vital minutes, making them sharper when called upon Exactly. The league is the priority, it has to be. We are outside the playoffs by 1 point at the moment, 4 points off top. As mediocre as we have been/might be, there probably is a chance to do something in the league this season, on account of how meh it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Southie_Owl said: Or teams in European competitions shouldn’t take part. It would help them with their own fixture congestion and ensure the big 6 clubs at the time aren’t in the league cup. I'd have thought this is the obvious answer - but I doubt any sponsor would agree 1 hour ago, Southie_Owl said: Or have a PL league cup and put the championship clubs into the Johnstone’s paint trophy or whatever it’s called now Not a PL league cup - they don't need the fixtures or the revenue But Championship clubs in a modified Trophy format? Sure It would allow clubs to utilise their squads AND remain competitive - but it wouldn't attract the crowds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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