trev Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, Bulldog said: Well, as Brian Laws was our last manager to serve more than 18 months - and one of only of three to do so in the last 20 years - I think that's a given! Carlos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, trev said: Carlos? 17 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, Bulldog said: 17 months Lol oh ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, trev said: Lol oh ok. No - I'm wrong it was actually 2 years 5 months (doesn't time fly when you're having fun) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPA Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, trev said: The Cowleys would have been afforded more time. They had the vast majority of fans supporting them and excited about them. Anecdotal of course, but I think you might be overestimating the excitement surrounding the Cowleys in the fanbase as a whole. Outside of OT I haven't seen anything from ST holders I speak to suggest any real clamour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, JPA said: Anecdotal of course, but I think you might be overestimating the excitement surrounding the Cowleys in the fanbase as a whole. Outside of OT I haven't seen anything from ST holders I speak to suggest any real clamour. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc1983 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, trev said: Nah...not having it. Monk won't be given the time to turn the whole club around. Which we need. His appointment has divided the fan base. The Cowleys would have been afforded more time. They had the vast majority of fans supporting them and excited about them. Fans can be fickle I know and it's a results based business. But I just think a few bad results and fans will be on his back early doors. He has a very tough job winning over a lot of people. I hope he does, but I just have a feeling he will be sacked within 18 months. Agree football is results based but sorry I don’t buy that the Cowley’s would’ve got more time than anybody else. Unproven at this level and let’s say they got the job and we lost the first 5 games there would be hell on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Could have had the best of both worlds.. By getting Ken Monk Cow in.. I'll get mi coyt.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Not exactly been a massive success at these clubs though has he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 30 minutes ago, swfc1983 said: Agree football is results based but sorry I don’t buy that the Cowley’s would’ve got more time than anybody else. Unproven at this level and let’s say they got the job and we lost the first 5 games there would be hell on. And if Monk loses his first 5? Way way worse. Because a lot of fans don't like or want him. Plus his previous experience in this league would automatically get rid of the argument that he needs time to get up to speed in this league etc. Maybe I'm wrong. But I just feel like Monk won't get a honeymoon period with our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacock1961 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Bulldog said: Well, as Brian Laws was our last manager to serve more than 18 months - and one of only of three to do so in the last 20 years - I think that's a given! Think you need to add up the tenure of Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Mishowl said: I wonder if he will be given the "4 or 5 transfer windows" people were saying Cowley needed? Cowley would have got half a dozen games and if we hadn't won at least 3 of them fans would have been saying "here we go, another poor appointment, we should have learned from Stoke appointing Nathan Jones, lower league managers aren't up to it in Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowls Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) Cowley on record as wanting to join a club in the summer to run a full audit .. I wouldn’t of given them any time to turn around things with 9 points in the bag and our current squad - I want results. Monk is a realist understands the pressures .. far more pressure at Leeds from the fans and the chairman at that time. Cowley were the new Hurst weren't they - Hurst was the next messiah but goes to Ipswich and fails massively. Monk is a solid appointment DC done two experiments .. Carlos and Jos plus I suspect he was willing to give Bullen a chance as well. He’s now appointed two solid experienced English managers .. which again I recall was the criteria from there majority of our fan base for soooo long! Edited September 6, 2019 by dowls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, vulva said: Problem is, we are a small club. Clubs like Burnley, Bournemouth, Norwich and Watford are light year in front, on so many levels. We are the Austin Maestros of English football. but doesnt everything of yesteryear make a comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rhubarb n Custard Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, vulva said: Problem is, we are a small club. Clubs like Burnley, Bournemouth, Norwich and Watford are light year in front, on so many levels. We are the Austin Maestros of English football. We are behind them but I don't see that we are a small club compared to any of those you mention. Behind them currently yes, smaller no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommycraign10others Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Mishowl said: I wonder if he will be given the "4 or 5 transfer windows" people were saying Cowley needed? Bruce said the same so I sincerely hope we give him at least 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, vulva said: Problem is, we are a small club. Clubs like Burnley, Bournemouth, Norwich and Watford are light year in front, on so many levels. We are the Austin Maestros of English football. Small clubs don't take 40 odd thousand to Wembley Small clubs don't take 5,000 to Preston for a meaningless end of season game Three of the clubs you mention can only dream of a fanbase like ours The other has nothing else to do at weekends baa shag sheep Do you like what I did there? Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, trev said: Nah...not having it. Monk won't be given the time to turn the whole club around. Which we need. His appointment has divided the fan base. The Cowleys would have been afforded more time. They had the vast majority of fans supporting them and excited about them. Fans can be fickle I know and it's a results based business. But I just think a few bad results and fans will be on his back early doors. He has a very tough job winning over a lot of people. I hope he does, but I just have a feeling he will be sacked within 18 months. Thats b*llocks. Cowley or Monk - if we aren’t in and around the playoffs, both will be gone. If the Cowleys failed, we’d all berate Chansiri for a gamble appointment and be on their backs - not a chance they’d be given more time if results went the wrong way If Monk fails, we’ll hammer him for not going for someone off the managerial merry go round and do the same Chansiri can’t win - but he’s gone for the easy option for someone who’s managed on this league before, can’t blame him Edited September 6, 2019 by TodwickOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, trev said: And if Monk loses his first 5? Way way worse. Because a lot of fans don't like or want him. Plus his previous experience in this league would automatically get rid of the argument that he needs time to get up to speed in this league etc. Maybe I'm wrong. But I just feel like Monk won't get a honeymoon period with our fans. Speak for yourself - I think it’s a split fanbase. We was never ever going to hire someone with 100% backing unless Hughton or Cowleys I remember last time DC signed someone up from fan pressure..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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