jonnyowl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 If he stays, fans will forgive if we are top of league end of August, poor start and fans will want him gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Farrell said: This. A bit like Carlos the con man, I wouldn't trust Bruce as far as I could throw him. Very capable Manager, but will shaft you the moment something better comes along. What were that you were saying earlier about getting over stuff Jeez he were 2 managers ago 3 if you count Bullys 4 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: What were that you were saying earlier about getting over stuff Jeez he were 2 managers ago 3 if you count Bullys 4 games I'm still trying to get over big Jack leaving. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basegreenowl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Yes he's still Sheffield Wednesday manager until Ashley pays the demand. And as such all forward planning should remain. Ashley could lump up the money as he's sold a player for £30 million and he plans to not pay Bruce much. If it can't be agreed and he walks I'd Lodge an official complaint to the governing bodies over illegal tap up of somebody employed elsewhere. It's not an impossible scenario. Really think clubs should be deducted points for this kind of thing. Soon as he walks the new man should be in as the door is still revolving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, daleblue said: I'm still trying to get over big Jack leaving. Meh Wilko did a better job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: Meh Wilko did a better job Can't comment as I was overseas during his sojourn. Edited July 14, 2019 by daleblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, basegreenowl said: Yes he's still Sheffield Wednesday manager until Ashley pays the demand. And as such all forward planning should remain. Ashley could lump up the money as he's sold a player for £30 million and he plans to not pay Bruce much. If it can't be agreed and he walks I'd Lodge an official complaint to the governing bodies over illegal tap up of somebody employed elsewhere. It's not an impossible scenario. Really think clubs should be deducted points for this kind of thing. Soon as he walks the new man should be in as the door is still revolving. and there is the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 IMO the only way Bruce is going to get his move to Newcastle is if he resigns and then it might not be clear cut. He's found himself in this position before when he resigned from Palace to force a move to Birmingham and I doubt he would want to find himself in that position again. The longer this drags on the more likely he remains our manager which wouldn't be the worst scenario in the world. We get off to a good start all this will soon be forgotten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Ive just agreed with posts saying he’s burned his bridges but also that if he stays we get behind him. Confusing/annoying times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthRustyOwl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I think it depends exactly what is in his contract. If a specific amount is written in there as a release clause then Bruce quitting won't help him as if he then went to Newcastle they would have to pay that as compensation, and Mike Ashley wouldn't risk appointing him. If he was going to pay it he might as well pay whilst Bruce is still our manager. Whereas if it isn't written in his contract the tribunal would rule that they have to pay the remainder of his contract, which will be much less than the £5 million Chansiri is asking for. I can easily see the situation where Bruce is still our manager as Newcastle won't pay for managers. He won't quit as he knows that Newcastle won't pay the compensation (if it is in his contract), and we can't sack him as then we'd have to pay out the remainder of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Lawrie Madden said: Steve Bruce was a good Manager before this blew up, he'll still be a good Manager when its reached it's conclusion I hope we get to keep him but fear for the backlash I counter that by saying this...the definition of a good manager is that they plan..manage..and execute. Planning takes commitment. Management and execution means that you need to intend to be on the premises to take advantage of the planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersiggi Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Judging by his comments and demeanour in the interview yesterday, I think in his own mind he expects to be at Newcastle very soon. Whether that comes about by a package being agreed with them, or he 'forces' it through with a resignation remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, supersiggi said: Judging by his comments and demeanour in the interview yesterday, I think in his own mind he expects to be at Newcastle very soon. Whether that comes about by a package being agreed with them, or he 'forces' it through with a resignation remains to be seen. Indeed. Either way he is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womble Owl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hitcat said: Totally disagree In what way? From my perspective, We have no money for transfers, are currently under an embargo, have poor training facilities, and are in the North with mediocre transport links such as no airport. Edited July 14, 2019 by Womble Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, Womble Owl said: In what way? From my perspective, We have no money for transfers, are currently under an embargo, have poor training facilities, and are in the North with mediocre transport links such as an airport. Big club, big support, great squad.. the embargo is all but gone, and their will be money for transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womble Owl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Unfortunately I don't think we are a big club anymore. We do have a decent sized supporter base, but so do most of the top ten championship clubs. I'd also add to list our ground. A lot on here won't like to hear it, but it's old and run down, and so are the facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Womble Owl said: Unfortunately I don't think we are a big club anymore. We do have a decent sized supporter base, but so do most of the top ten championship clubs. I'd also add to list our ground. A lot on here won't like to hear it, but it's old and run down, and so are the facilities. Jesus. Fill your glass up bruv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Quist said: You do not live in real world. He is involved in football people move around all the time. Thankfully football isn’t the real world...however, DC showed compassion and humility in Bruce’s situation so therefore it’s understandable why people are miffed...so maybe it’s you that not in the real world?.... Edited July 14, 2019 by fatzooma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Womble Owl said: Unfortunately I don't think we are a big club anymore. We do have a decent sized supporter base, but so do most of the top ten championship clubs. I'd also add to list our ground. A lot on here won't like to hear it, but it's old and run down, and so are the facilities. Absolute rubbish, there’s no bigger fan base than us in the championship, and our ground is the Wembley of the north !!! So F**K OFF. UTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I’d like Bruce to stay on, but I’d also like to know who the replacement would be, just so we could make an informed decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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