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3 minutes ago, owler66 said:

At that time yes and the fee proved it

 

OK, it's a matter of opinion of course. He was certainly a good player and I was sorry to see him leave at the time. But I don't think he was the best player in the side. The fee simply reflected the value put on goal scoring forwards (as has generally been the case in football. Clubs pay inflated prices for goal scorers).

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Cardiff paid 6M for Madine

 

Villa paid 12M for Hogan

 

just based on that Reach has to be valued around 15M

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no way the steves will let reach go in jan. maybe in the summer, but not before SB & co have worked with him.

 

if he goes its because DC has pushed the button.

 

 

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1 hour ago, OwlinOldham said:

I wouldn't take anything less than 12m for him with a push on a worthwhile player also coming the other way as part of it. While we need money to satisfy FFP/P&S, we would be silly to sell him for less than what we can get.

The fees in this division have exploded the last few years, we need to push for all we can get and if possible even start a bidding war. By accepting 10M when we could more than likely get more, its signalling that all our players can be bought for less than they are worth.

As a side note, if DC thinks we can still go up this year, its not likely we are going to sell him any way.

If Brooks is 18m then Reach is same, we should be looking to offload Forestieri before we go anywhere near Reach 

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3 minutes ago, DuttyTeabags said:

If Brooks is 18m then Reach is same, we should be looking to offload Forestieri before we go anywhere near Reach 

Brooks is better than Reach from what i've seen.

 

Although be interesting to see Reach when he's got better players around him like Brooks has now.

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2 minutes ago, DuttyTeabags said:

If Brooks is 18m then Reach is same, 

 

Not sure I agree with you there. Brooks is a top player 

 

I’d value Reach at £12-15m and even then it’s too much for what you get 

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I'm a big Reach fan, but if we can get close to £15m, get Hooper off the wage bill now, it could sort, or at least significantly improve the FFP position and allow us to improve the squad close season. 

 

Letting him go could be the solution to our impending financial problems, so it's a sacrifice worth making in my eyes. We didn't do it with Forestieri when we had the chance, so this may be our get out of jail card. We've got to plug the financial gap somehow. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Not Jon Newsome said:

I wouldn't take 10M, it's weird how some of our fans can't wait to sell Reach, it's almost as if they hate the fact he's proved you all wrong.

 

Someone who I know hated to ground that he walked on, however he can’t recall this now, the good news is that he feels the same about Dawson, which means that he will soon be worth mega money.  :tango:

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43 minutes ago, Ash76 said:

People that think we should take £10m for Reach don’t understand the game 

 

Perfect age, great engine, rarely injured and the ability to single handedly win games. 

 

Any lower than £15m would be very disappointing 

 

For evidence look at the fees of Josh Murphy and James Maddison 

And anybody that thinks we are in a strong negotiating position (like Norwich were) can't read a profit and loss account.

 

Plus from a footballing perspective, I don't get your point.  Madison scored 15 goals at the age of 21 in his first full Championship season.  He clearly had a far far higher market value than Reach.

 

Murphy only went for £11 million, is 2 years younger than Reach and has that one thing that PL teams crave - raw pace.

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So a club renowned for not selling any of its players ever are now prepared to give them away on the cheap? 

Wouldnt be against selling anyone as long as we’re not mugged off.

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17 minutes ago, DuttyTeabags said:

If Brooks is 18m then Reach is same, we should be looking to offload Forestieri before we go anywhere near Reach 

Clubs don't buy 20 year olds because of the player they are, they do it for what they hope they will become.

 

Reach is 26 next month, PL clubs are not going to see the same development potential.

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 Nowhere in that Star article does it say that Villa are going to offer £10m.  It just says they are going to make an offer for "the £10m rated Reach".

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37 minutes ago, DELUDED OWL said:

We are if the "attractive" offer isnt seen as enough. 

 

Well, if Reach is as valuable as some here seem to think, then once it's seen that he's available then other clubs will come in and try and gatecrash the party. If not, then we ought to accept what we can get for him. We shall see.

 

Personally speaking, I don't think we can afford the luxury of holding out for an unrealistic fee. It's not that I want to sell him (I genuinely don't) but I think we're going to struggle to move on until we can sort out the FFP issues.

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11 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

And anybody that thinks we are in a strong negotiating position (like Norwich were) can't read a profit and loss account.

 

Plus from a footballing perspective, I don't get your point.  Madison scored 15 goals at the age of 21 in his first full Championship season.  He clearly had a far far higher market value than Reach.

 

Murphy only went for £11 million, is 2 years younger than Reach and has that one thing that PL teams crave - raw pace.

 

As soon as there is more than one bidder we have a strong position. 

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Sheffield Star...using the Daily Star as a source.

 

What a time to be alive.

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15 m at least, reach is replaceable 

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32 minutes ago, waddleisgod said:

Cardiff paid 6M for Madine

 

Villa paid 12M for Hogan

 

just based on that Reach has to be valued around 15M

Hogan had just scored 21 Championship goals in his last 28 matches!  And is a striker.

 

Madine had scored 10 Championship goals by January in a terrible team and Cardiff felt he could get them over the line to the PL.  £6m seemed fair enough to me.  Right place, right time.

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6 minutes ago, Holmowl said:

 

As soon as there is more than one bidder we have a strong position. 

True but that is only likely to come to fruition if a PL team gets involved.

 

Not sure anybody but Villa in the Championship would pay that for a player of Reach's type.

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