pat blondeau Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 He’s done well to get a song... Der der der Joey Pelupessy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Because he doesn't run around like a lunatic people don't see what he does. He also gets no defensive help from his other midfielders, especially Onomah, so he inevitably is left open and exposed and this is what people see more often. Would be tempted to give him some defensive help with Jones or Hutchinson alongside him in the 3. He can't do it all for himself. He does pass to Bannan a lot but that's his job in the team, get the ball and give it to the better playmaker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bleeder said: Thought Bannan worked hard meself I thought quite a few worked hard. Especially when we were losing. they seemed annoyed and tried to step up, but in doing so the shape was lost and we know the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Because he doesn't run around like a lunatic people don't see what he does. He also gets no defensive help from his other midfielders, especially Onomah, so he inevitably is left open and exposed and this is what people see more often. Would be tempted to give him some defensive help with Jones or Hutchinson alongside him in the 3. He can't do it all for himself. He does pass to Bannan a lot but that's his job in the team, get the ball and give it to the better playmaker. He is rubbish There’s no disguising it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, Bleeder said: I don't think we would get over the half way line if he did that mate So whats your formation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Because he doesn't run around like a lunatic people don't see what he does. He also gets no defensive help from his other midfielders, especially Onomah, so he inevitably is left open and exposed and this is what people see more often. Would be tempted to give him some defensive help with Jones or Hutchinson alongside him in the 3. He can't do it all for himself. He does pass to Bannan a lot but that's his job in the team, get the ball and give it to the better playmaker. People see what he does. It’s just very little and unfortunately he’s limited as a footballer. I’m pretty sure most don’t care he doesn’t run around like a lunatic. But it’d be nice if he wasn’t stuck in the same 30 yard circle all game like he attached to something. The thing for me is, the job he’s there to do, he doesn’t do very well. He’s average at that at best. Then he lacks any quality being able to do jobs and has zero responsibility on the ball. League one player at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It reflects our situation when a player of limited ability; doesn't protect the defence and offers nothing going forward, is the among the first names on the team sheet. If the brief is to stand max 10 yrs from BB and give the ball to him we're fecked. We need someone to, yes win the ball and give, but then get forward for the return - not to stop waiting for BB to knock a 40 yrd crossfield ball to two imobile strikers. Even if the team had a better balance, we still need better than Joey Pelupessy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, billyblack said: So whats your formation? I know opinions are like ars*****s an all that.... and an opinion is all it is... but.. I'd go 4141 on the basis that I don't believe we have anybody capable of playing wingback and we only have (imo) 1 decent striker. I think we'd get overrun in a 433.. so GK. If Westwood isn't injured/unavailabe then him every time. Dawson has struggled and his confidence must be absolutely shot now so Wildsmith over him otherwise. RB Probably Hutchinson if not injured. If not then Palmer. I think Baker would really struggle. CBs Lees and Pudil, LB Thorniley.... just don't think Penney has the physicality. Midfield of Hector deeper, Joao (with alot of erm 'encouragement' before he goes out) Onomah, Bannan and Reach in front of him with Fletcher up top (supported by Reach and Joao when we have the ball) Who knows. What we do need is some method and stability...... so I might've changed me mind by tomorrow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Why single him out? Majority of the team are not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Great_Hope Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Whilst I broadly agree, with Lee done, Hutch never going to be picked and Jones not able to move more than 15 in any direction, who do we have that can come in to the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan93 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Put him right back, I think he’ll do a good job there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, Bleeder said: I know opinions are like ars*****s an all that.... and an opinion is all it is... but.. I'd go 4141 on the basis that I don't believe we have anybody capable of playing wingback and we only have (imo) 1 decent striker. I think we'd get overrun in a 433.. so GK. If Westwood isn't injured/unavailabe then him every time. Dawson has struggled and his confidence must be absolutely shot now so Wildsmith over him otherwise. RB Probably Hutchinson if not injured. If not then Palmer. I think Baker would really struggle. CBs Lees and Pudil, LB Thorniley.... just don't think Penney has the physicality. Midfield of Hector deeper, Joao (with alot of erm 'encouragement' before he goes out) Onomah, Bannan and Reach in front of him with Fletcher up top (supported by Reach and Joao when we have the ball) Who knows. What we do need is some method and stability...... so I might've changed me mind by tomorrow! Sounds fairly reasoned to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A57Lincsowl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Shifty Powers said: Its not good enough simply passing it to Bannan every single time and expecting him to do something with it. This is half the problem. Too many times players look for Bannan rather than attack teams themselves. We need more players to involve themselves. The movement Norwich players made when attacking was far better than ours. Some of our passing was poor, surely BB isn't the only one who can pass? A few need to practice harder. Also Jos should show the team kit diagrams... We are in blue.... they are in yellow.... don't pass to the yellow ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Guy on twitter pictured with Abdi in Manchester, asked him if he was injured..said no, would be a better option half fit than Pelupessy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, billyblack said: Yet, a few weeks ago he was bring touted on here as future captain. How does that work..... Some people have different views to others , some thought he was a captain and " touted" it whilst others said nowt ,those that said nowt probably don't think he is very good and are saying it Think that's how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Because he doesn't run around like a lunatic people don't see what he does. He also gets no defensive help from his other midfielders, especially Onomah, so he inevitably is left open and exposed and this is what people see more often. Would be tempted to give him some defensive help with Jones or Hutchinson alongside him in the 3. He can't do it all for himself. He does pass to Bannan a lot but that's his job in the team, get the ball and give it to the better playmaker. Agree, if we’d have had 2 more of him in there yesterday instead of Bannan and Onomah we wouldn’t have conceded 4. Bannan looked busy as usual but wasn’t intelligent enough of the ball. Onomah was simply a disgrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, jack whitham said: Guy on twitter pictured with Abdi in Manchester, asked him if he was injured..said no, would be a better option half fit than Pelupessy. Would he indeed, contributed knacker all in 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, the monk said: Some people have different views to others , some thought he was a captain and " touted" it whilst others said nowt ,those that said nowt probably don't think he is very good and are saying it Think that's how it works Really. Never knew. My point being that the fans appear to be divided on everything, theres not even any consistency there. One week we win Jos is thr new messiah, the following week we lose and he is clueless and should never have been here in the first place. Seems to be a lot of ass kissing when when we win then blind hate when we lose. Totak knee jerk emotions with zero rationale most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, billyblack said: Would he indeed, contributed knacker all in 2 years I wonder why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Because he doesn't run around like a lunatic people don't see what he does. He also gets no defensive help from his other midfielders, especially Onomah, so he inevitably is left open and exposed and this is what people see more often. Would be tempted to give him some defensive help with Jones or Hutchinson alongside him in the 3. He can't do it all for himself. He does pass to Bannan a lot but that's his job in the team, get the ball and give it to the better playmaker. Looking at stats sites he was one of our better players. Didn’t miss two sitters, didn’t give the ball away to concede for them like some of his midfield compatriots. Bannan is everywhere other than centre mid, Onamah plays at walking pace and can’t pass, tackle or shoot, Reach plays further forward and probably rightly so. So who’s helping this limited player? Answer: nobody. He was doing work of three men and no wonder he oooks out of depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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