Bloxwich Owl Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Daizan10 said: I hope he says he is going to spend willy nilly and get promoted then pay the fine out of his own pocket. Just for me. (Gowan, gowan, gowan Mr Chansiri) Unfortunately even if he did want to go for broke the EFL could prevent us from being promoted with the change in rules this season........ What happens if clubs bust their ceiling for losses? Any punishment for breach of the rules will be determined by an independent panel (the ‘Fair Play Panel’). But what are the potential punishments? Previously the Football League has only been able to either fine promoted clubs (a fine the Premier League didn’t help them collect), or impose a transfer embargo for historic overspending (which always like a stable-door/horse scenario). With this change, a wide range of punishments are now available. Nothing is off the table; the Football League are now able to impose a points deduction during the current season, or demote a club from an automatic promotion position into the play-offs (or out of the play-offs altogether). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike84 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Considering our history with things like being relegated the season before parachute payments started, missing out on the £millions the premier league started to attract in TV monies soon after our relegation we'll likely be the first club automatically relegated for breaking P&S rules or docked enough points to mean we miss out on the playoffs at the end of the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Not seen anything about a points deduction/relegation as I mentioned above. Given the spending by some Championship clubs over the past two seasons - who have surely all broken P&S, or are on course to - I find those punishments hard to believe. What is your reasoning for Mr Chansiri's lack of spending, given the current team won't win promotion? Can’t be sure obviously but seems like we’re at or over the FFP and he understands that the punishments are worse than not spending this summer. Not sure which clubs you think have broken FFP but haven’t been punished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Sonny said: Can’t be sure obviously but seems like we’re at or over the FFP and he understands that the punishments are worse than not spending this summer. Not sure which clubs you think have broken FFP but haven’t been punished? Forest are recently out of a transfer embargo and have purchased one player for £14m. The rest of their deals are undisclosed, but the likes of Lewis Grabban won't have been cheap. Looking at their signings just this season, they'll estimate they've spent close to £30m - similar than Wednesday have paid in fees combined in 3 seasons. Leeds are spending plenty and are chasing strikers in the £10-15m bracket. Derby, whilst they have sold a few players, have been spending big cash for as long as I remember. Wolves last season alone - spent more than Wednesday have in 3 seasons. Not forgetting their spending the season before when they flopped too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 So in this world that we currently operate in, us NOT having a transfer embargo will be something to celebrate. An embargo would of course be bad news, although it would stop us throwing away wedges of money like we have in the past. But if there is no bad news it shouldn’t be seen as good news, it should be seen as the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebowl Yell Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Ever the pessimist said: He will name the person who paid for club 1867 membership. What Casbahowl? He already told us 8 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) He’ll announce that order has been cancelled for the 40’ tall bronze statue of David Hirst kissing his Wednesday badge. Edited July 31, 2018 by shandypants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I'm hoping DC says that a few new players are coming in. Would certainly give us a boost before the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaton_Swfc Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Not scrolled through the thread ... but I'm predicting he's selling up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark77 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Ever the pessimist said: He will name the person who paid for club 1867 membership. There was actually more than one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 40 minutes ago, Eaton_Swfc said: Not scrolled through the thread ... but I'm predicting he's selling up. Not a chance Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 There is no fire sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Chairman will announce his disappointment with the fans not willing to pay £90 for membership the same way we wouldn't loan the club 3 years worth of season ticket money last season. He will also announce that if we don't buy the home and away shirt by end of next week the price is going up to £80. DC never miss a chance to milk the fans some more. On a side note he won't be investing any money because of FFP his usual excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Not seen this anywhere, no. The EFL have set the precedent now for P&S punishment - they can't fine/embargo some clubs and points deduct/relegate others for lesser crimes! Also, with some of the spending by Championship clubs in the past two seasons, I'd call nonsense on those punishments too. Forest, for starters, would be relegated already given their spending so far this season (and Wolves would have been relegated last season!). Forest have sold players recently. It seems in short term they are fine. Our problem is we have already sailed close to the limit and may already be on a warning. Our chance to splash the cash has gone. Edited July 31, 2018 by rickygoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I's expect something on the lines of.. We gave it a go and through bad luck it didn't work out. Now we have to be patient and get behind the players, managers, and the club; he is looking to re-structure the finances to put the club back on a level footing. This may take time, but the club is in a much better position now than it was when he took over. People are working very hard behind the scenes to generate more income for the club. On and off the pitch, the club has seen improvements and this cannot be ignored. The Championship is a very hard league with lots of big clubs with lots of money, and the parachute payments provide an extra advantage to the teams relegated from the premier league. We currently have a good squad and he hopes the manager, with less injuries,we still can be competitive this year. The transfer of Jordan Rhodes didn't work out as expected and it was a gamble that didn't pay off; now we have to manage the situation the bet way we can. Thanks the fans for all their support, and the continued support is needed more than ever through this transitional period. Comments about being a family club and we need to remind as one and together as a club and pull in the right direction. Its important for the club for fans to turn up in numbers and support the team on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 That the clubs official corn puff of choice will be Wotsits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, steveger said: That the clubs official corn puff of choice will be Wotsits What a whopping whoosh! Edited August 1, 2018 by Athelwulf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twaddle Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Well I am expecting DC to announce he's sorted FFP Att has just bought the Blavdes - and we've sold them Abdi for £15mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsfaninNorway Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 13 hours ago, @owlstalk said: It's going to be interesting to see what Mr Chansiri is going to say this time at the fans forum. Think the last one was early January wasn't it? Can anyone remember what was said there? What do you think he'll announce this time? Overview of finances? Explanation of the situation re FFP / P&S? Player signings? Membership price being revised to £40 after feedback from fans? Probably announce that we're 9 million over FFP as heard of earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 16 hours ago, jimbob 13 said: Apologising for the balti pies being a dry as a nuns growler Worryingly I think this now how will describe overcooked food for the rest of my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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