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With all due respect mate, anyone going for Hirst (then 17 years old) above signing proven Championship quality when the goal was promotion, is Football Manager talk. Obviously, those two signings didn’t work out - and hindsight is a great thing. But I’m glad our owner had the ambition to sign that calibre of player, rather than pinning our hopes on a 17 year old boy with no football league experience. Odds are young Hirst won’t live up to the hype and he’ll go the direction of 95% of “hot prospects” and turn up at Hallam FC when he hits his mid-20’s. That’s assuming he fancies showing his face around Sheffield after this move - be a lot of angry folk around who won’t forget and will go overboard in their reaction. At last, we can move on.

Aye, it looks as though we’ve been ripped off. Wouldn’t be surprised if young Hirst is getting the salary he wanted at this tinpot club in Belgium and of course a nice free agent signing fee - funded by Leicester -and he’ll eventually end up at Leicester and enjoy another decent signing fee. Fees paid for that would have otherwise come to Wednesday in compensation. Leicester win. No mark Belgium team win. Hirst wins. Wednesday lose.

I think someone has missed a few chapters of the book!!

So, we offered a teenage with no first team experience £4k a week? Which Hirst turned down? Glad we didn’t offer any more. £4k a week for someone so unproven, mental! Any higher, suicide! Maybe the club acted the way they have because they knew this deal was on the cards? In which case, I would applaud not developing the player further - at a cost to the club with no benefit. Had Hirst signed for a Premier League club, I’d have wished him well and hoped to have seen him be as successful as possible. 25% sell on I believe is standard with tribunal fees, so had he gone on to have a successful career, we would have had some financial compensation for his development. As a deal been agreed to seemingly get round the above, Hirst can get to f*ck. Actions of someone lower than a snakes belly.

Not sure to be honest mate, bit if you are, I'd rather, say £5m guaranteed from Norwich to pay to Boro than nothing at all - which could be the case if they decide not to buy at the end of a loan deal.

My thoughts exactly. Plus, if Rhodes really is 'done' then he'll be our problem again when his loan spell finishes. If he rediscovers his touch, then we lose a lethal goalscorer. A loan (aside from wages saved) is a lose lose for us IMO.

So, a clubs final league position is where they deserve to be at the end of the season? Nowt gets past this kid!

Thanks! Sure I remember the initial fine was £11m as it coincided with the sell-on fee they got for Sterling to Man City. Article below in 2015 says £8m. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/18/qpr-fine-financial-fair-play-8m Whatever the fine turns out to be - assuming it's not quashed on appeal - it will be a fraction of Premier League money, so still doesn't seem like a deterrent. Can't believe it's dragged on for 3 years mind!

I don't think points deduction has been set as a precedent, so I can't see that happening. So far, clubs have received transfer embargos and fines (though I don't think QPR have paid that fine yet - last I saw they were fighting against it from 4/5 years ago). If we are fined, so what, Mr Chansiri is minted and promotion will dwarf the fine - I think QPR's fine is £11m. A transfer embargo - by us trying to stay within FFP, we are effectively in a transfer embargo anyway as we won't be bringing in quality players because we are near the £39m limit. The important thing to remember is, unlike when we had our trip to the High Court, is any debt is debt to himself - not the Co-op Bank, not to the Inland Revenue. Mr Chansiri has already invested (if memory serves me correctly) in excess of £120m (purchase, training/stadium upgrades, players/salaries, sponsorship, etc.) and any money that is borrowed is from himself - which I'm sure would be turned into equity within the club. So, he has three options. 1. Keep investing sensibly with a clear and realistic goal of promotion. Given the way the Championship is going, there is a very good chance we'll need to either get lucky or break FFP for that to happen. 2. Sell us on - if he can get a buyer - and get as much money back as possible (won't be anywhere near what he's laid out, so he'll make a substantial loss). 3. Cease/massively reduce investment and be left with a rather expense Championship club, which might yo-yo to League One, with no hope of getting anywhere near his investment back. I think he's in danger of number 3, yet wanting Premier League football. With regards to your last sentence - that's what we'd all like. But, even with a decent squad already, when other Championship clubs blow us out of the water with their spending, then it becomes increasing more difficult to get promotion with budget balancing. Cardiff (who spent similar in wages to us last year I believe) and Huddersfield are two "against the odds" examples from recent years, but they aren't the norm.

Mr Chansiri can, of course, decide not to play by the financial restrictions, but he is choosing to. My immediate thought is that because he believes in fair practice and abiding by the regulations, or is he up to the limit he's prepared to invest and FFP (S&P) is an ideal thing to hide behind? I have to say if I had invested as much as Mr Chansiri has so far, and wanted to spend more to give us the best possible chance of promotion, then I'd be spending what the hell I liked regardless of financial restrictions set by the league.

I'd rather the club was more sensible with the income it already receives. If Mr Chansiri is insistent on playing by the FFP (P&S), then we can ill afford to pish away millions on players we seemingly have had no intention of playing. Increasing ticket prices to give us this so-called breathing space would simply be supporters paying for recent recruitment mistakes. Afraid those mistakes should be footed by the Chairman.

This!

*Google translate*

SOME not ALL. Wake up bacon boy!

Did I?! I said "Some excellent players on the list, but they've contributed very little for SWFC.". Key word for you there pal is SOME. Learn to read and write bro.