james o connor Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: The hatred of Carlos, who gave us our best football and 2 highest finishes since we left the Premier League, is absolutely bizarre It’s not hatred at all . We obviously finished higher because we spunked loads of money for the first time since relegation. We won in spite of Carlos , when it came to the crunch we bottled it every time , just like his Swansea side did against Southampton. The fact his legacy of crocked players and fat contracts for players that offer nothing is still living on is what annoys me . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisCityIsOurs88 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Well Carlos, the feeling definitely isn’t mutual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Tactically too rigid. Lacked the bottle to finish the job and got away with it due to us being the surprise package season 1 when everyone was still fit and organised from stu's regime. Man management was poor, see Abdi, mcgugan, venancio and the youth products etc... We move on and leave him to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j17tjp Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I liked Carlos. Admittedly it was time for him to go, but the best recent memories have all been via him & his style of play. Arsenal 3-0, Wembley, 2x playoffs contenders. Maybe if he dropped into League One/Two and brought a team up, he’d get some love back - like a Swindon or Blackpool etc and got them flying high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonOWL Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 "Ronaldo is too attacking and should be playing it back to the keeper alot more" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, james o connor said: It’s not hatred at all . We obviously finished higher because we spunked loads of money for the first time since relegation. We won in spite of Carlos , when it came to the crunch we bottled it every time , just like his Swansea side did against Southampton. The fact his legacy of crocked players and fat contracts for players that offer nothing is still living on is what annoys me . Exaxtly right, in the Wednesday universe Carlos was given a rare golden egg, and instead of producing a delicious omelette and chips he came up with scrambled egg on slightly burnt toast. There’s no hatred just disappointment that we didn’t hire a proper chef to begin with. I’ve forgotten what point I’m making but if my girlfriend is reading this I want omelettes and not scrambled egg, thank you. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Hillsborough Mole said: The hatred of Carlos, who gave us our best football and 2 highest finishes since we left the Premier League, is absolutely bizarre You could say a similar thing about Trevor Francis who ruined our club Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: Exaxtly right, in the Wednesday universe Carlos was given a rare golden egg, and instead of producing a delicious omelette and chips he came up with scrambled egg on slightly burnt toast. And dropped it on the kitchen floor, smashing the plate, and watching in dismay as the dog ran over and lapped it all up before running off to lick it's balls Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: Exaxtly right, in the Wednesday universe Carlos was given a rare golden egg, and instead of producing a delicious omelette and chips he came up with scrambled egg on slightly burnt toast. There’s no hatred just disappointment that we didn’t hire a proper chef to begin with. I’ve forgotten what point I’m making but if my girlfriend is reading this I want omelettes and not scrambled egg, thank you. I keep reading about all the cash he had, but to put into context it’s at a time lots of other clubs have even more. Let’s remember 5he first good season eh? Yes it went pear shaped but let’s no5 get too b8tter. Time moves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: You could say a similar thing about Trevor Francis who ruined our club David Pleat ruined our club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Just now, Hillsborough Mole said: David Pleat ruined our club He just continued Trevor Francis' work Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Hillsborough Mole said: The hatred of Carlos, who gave us our best football and 2 highest finishes since we left the Premier League, is absolutely bizarre It bemuses me. Can only think those criticising haven’t sat through the previous 20 years of utter gash like a select few of us have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: David Pleat ruined our club We haven't finished higher than we did under Pleat for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, james o connor said: It’s not hatred at all . We obviously finished higher because we spunked loads of money for the first time since relegation. We won in spite of Carlos , when it came to the crunch we bottled it every time , just like his Swansea side did against Southampton. The fact his legacy of crocked players and fat contracts for players that offer nothing is still living on is what annoys me . not you as well , I thought you had more sense than to think carlos would be the one doing the contracts ……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 If he says he liked the city and the people, this thread doesn’t really back him up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, vulva said: It bemuses me. Can only think those criticising haven’t sat through the previous 20 years of utter gash like a select few of us have. They sat through last Oct/Nov/Dec tho They might even have seen that shot we had on goal Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 40 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: David Pleat ruined our club This. Took us a long time to get over his fuckups. Hate the guy with a passion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 4 hours ago, jonesy87shef said: Didn’t have the finances to compete to keep Swansea up. How msbt points and goals did they get in the last 9 games? Maybe don’t lose to relegation rivals. Maybe don’t bottle it and revert to defensive tactics at the first sign of trouble. Joke of a manager and I hope he’s done in England Wasnt really a joke of a manager for the first 2 seasons was he? Maybe blame the players for bottling it at wembley. Last season it was time for him to go, course ut was, but lets give the bloke a bit of respect for what he did. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Didn't there used to be a chant that went something like 'Carlos had a dream,To build a football team.......' My memories of Carlos are mixed. In the season he took over, we saw some superb football. He took a team that was never Premiership class, and after a final third of a season, pushed them to finish 4th (above their actual worth IMO) and a very disappointing Wembley visit. The second season he had them comfortably qualifying for the play-offs, only to fail in front of their own crowd. His last season saw a drastic change in both results and tactics, and he quite rightly moved on, though many would argue not soon enough. He had not only been hit by injuries to many key players, but appeared to have losst the dressing room. His last six months at Hillsborough were enough to rightly bring the wrath of his fans down on him. His departure - pre-planned? -came as a relief, and his legacy has been questioned, but in view of past 'glories', I feel that, pleased as I am that he is gone, his record at S6 does not warrant the volume of abuse he receives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmason69 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I'm sure he misses a power crazed owner who decides whom we buy and sell, who effectively picks the team, whom drives away our best young players, whom is a complete dictator. Wow, there's so much to miss at Hillsborough. What can be keeping him away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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