asteener1867 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Where does the OP say he's not good enough? The OP effectively says I believe we swapped one narrow ultra defensive coach for a better one. Again Sij, I haven't said he's not good enough; you've made that up. You said "No real difference on the pitch"...without mentionoing the injuries he's hampered with...So If theres no real difference o the pitch, hows it any improvement on Carlos? You alos mention in another post "No need for insults" but derisively say "Owlstalk cheerleaders" in the initial post... Do you read what you post..ever? Edited January 27, 2018 by asteener1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 hour ago, zzmdu said: Seems to be a more experienced and better manager and it's early doors. He'll clearly sort out discipline & fitness problems out. However on the pitch; seems to be an identical manager to Carlos. :very organised :very defensive :very narrow :no attack plan An improvement on Carlos; the Owlstalk Resident Cheerleaders won't like this; but can't see any real difference on the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: You said "No real difference on the pitch"...without mentionoing the injuries he's hampered with...So If theres no real difference o the pitch, hows it any improvement on Carlos? You alos mention in another post "No need for insults" but derisively say "Owlstalk cheerleaders" in the initial post... Do you read what you post..ever? The players looked more motivated; less endless passing between the defensive & mids. So yes ok some differences; but looks fundamentally similar to Carlos. Ultra defensive and no width. Edited January 27, 2018 by zzmdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash77 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Some similar things are to be expected as they're cc's players, we have no proper wingers so why play with width or be gung ho for example? There are obvious improvements and changes like 352 with 4231 as an option, better teamwork, better selections, odd youth appearances, getting more out of written off players somehow like matias & nuhiu etc. With lees, bannan, hooper, ff fit and possibly 2 full backs and pacy winger option, id be suprised if he didnt get us top 6 next season without bottling play offs. Very encouraging start in a short time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Nah....keep 'em on record..You see who starts them then...thats how you tell its simplistic nonsense.......and who starts it You called? FFS ™ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 hour ago, zzmdu said: Seems to be a more experienced and better manager and it's early doors. He'll clearly sort out discipline & fitness problems out. However on the pitch; seems to be an identical manager to Carlos. :very organised :very defensive :very narrow :no attack plan An improvement on Carlos; the Owlstalk Resident Cheerleaders won't like this; but can't see any real difference on the pitch. Excellent fishing! You have taken a hit on the negs but I suppose it has been worth it from your perspective for a few hours of fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, zzmdu said: The players looked more motivated; less endless pawing between the defensive & mids. So yes ok some differences; but looks fundamentally similar to Carlos. Ultra defensive and no width. Surely until, Bannan, lee, lees, FF, Hutch, Hooper are back comparing Jos to Carlos is a little unfair isn't it? Until he has all the same tools available to him, its a meaningless comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, zzmdu said: The players looked more motivated; less endless passing between the defensive & mids. So yes ok some differences; but looks fundamentally similar to Carlos. Ultra defensive and no width. Apart from having more shots on target last night than in the whole of November 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 If we have the same organisation and level of application with a fully fit squad than we would have easily beat Cardiff and pigs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musn't Grumble Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 So far, the most encouraging change of manager since Jack Charlton took over, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: If we have the same organisation and level of application with a fully fit squad than we would have easily beat Cardiff and pigs! Spot on. Not saying Jos will turn out to be a legend and wordlbeater, but he's a level or two above Carlos. You only have to look how quickly he's stabilised an injury decimated squad, and tried out the youths available to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Just now, Mr Farrell said: Spot on. Not saying Jos will turn out to be a legend and wordlbeater, but he's a level or two above Carlos. You only have to look how quickly he's stabilised an injury decimated squad, and tried out the youths available to him. Give over.....You will be askin' for the shackles off in a fortnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I actually find myself agreeing with Mr Farrell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Just now, SiJ said: I actually find myself agreeing with Mr Farrell. Its a trap! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWL1969 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Pompeyowl said: Can’t see any differences?! It’s FAR too early to judge in my opinion, but the main thing that stands out for me at the moment is: Carlos with an almost full strength squad - Lost embarrassingly on home soil to our butterest rivals. Jos with entire first team out, and a man down - Battled to a hard earned goalless draw away at the home of our bitterest rivals. One single goal conceded (very unlucky), look dangerous going forward and not lost a game as yet. Sure it wasn't deliberate, but I quite like the thought of dem Blades being our "Butterest" rivals. We will cut through them like a knife through err butter next time we meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Where does the OP say he's not good enough? The OP effectively says I believe we swapped one narrow ultra defensive coach for a better one. Again Sij, I haven't said he's not good enough; you've made that up. You're pretty much marking his card after half a dozen games. Calling him Carlos the Second (considering how he left) is pretty much saying he isn't good enough or won't be good enough. He's "ultra" defensive, apparently. Perhaps it's a case of getting the best out of what he's got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: I actually find myself agreeing with Mr Farrell. Me too it's worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: Me too it's worrying It'll sort itself out.. Mr Farrell won't stand any nonsense from Jos... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, zzmdu said: Seems to be a more experienced and better manager and it's early doors. He'll clearly sort out discipline & fitness problems out. However on the pitch; seems to be an identical manager to Carlos. :very organised :very defensive :very narrow :no attack plan An improvement on Carlos; the Owlstalk Resident Cheerleaders won't like this; but can't see any real difference on the pitch. 1) Matias would not have been on the pitch 1a) He would have turned round and run to the Centre circle instead of closing down the defender, winning the ball and crossing for the 2nd goal. 2) All 3 goals came from 1st time shots. 3) The team did not run out of steam through lack of fitness. Edited January 27, 2018 by adelphi1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, zzmdu said: Seems to be a more experienced and better manager and it's early doors. He'll clearly sort out discipline & fitness problems out. However on the pitch; seems to be an identical manager to Carlos. :very organised :very defensive :very narrow :no attack plan An improvement on Carlos; the Owlstalk Resident Cheerleaders won't like this; but can't see any real difference on the pitch. Edited January 27, 2018 by helmut_rooster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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