crookesowl Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 39 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Seems to be a more experienced and better manager and it's early doors. He'll clearly sort out discipline & fitness problems out. However on the pitch; seems to be an identical manager to Carlos. :very organised :very defensive :very narrow :no attack plan An improvement on Carlos; the Owlstalk Resident Cheerleaders won't like this; but can't see any real difference on the pitch. I have literally never seen such a massive transformation in effort, formation, and attitude following a manager change in 28 years following this club. I think you need a holiday dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris E Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 41 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Seems to be a more experienced and better manager and it's early doors. He'll clearly sort out discipline & fitness problems out. However on the pitch; seems to be an identical manager to Carlos. :very organised :very defensive :very narrow :no attack plan An improvement on Carlos; the Owlstalk Resident Cheerleaders won't like this; but can't see any real difference on the pitch. Maybe you should do a spreadsheet for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, zzmdu said: As apposed to playing Five at the back; as per last night. Or are hunt & fox wingers??? I'd rather play 5 at the back and have 8 shots on target in 90 minutes than 4 and have 5 on target in a month But I'm just weird like that I guess 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 minute ago, a_weishaupt said: Which season of Carlos, 1st, 2nd or 3rd? 2nd and 3rd With the quality at his disposal he has proved himself to be the most wasteful, and clueless manager I've ever seen at the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland nilson Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Not what I’ve seen and one thing for sure we would have lost at Bumhole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Debate the topic; no need for the insults. Maybe I've read out fanbase wrong. I thought we would have wanted an attack minded manager who favoured width & pace. Obviously not. From what I've seen Jos isn't anything like the above. Bit underwhelmed; really wanted an attack minded manager. Obviously I'm on my own. you want attacking entertainment, you're a fan, you will 'ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK, is the fans chant. BUT jos is a 'PROFESSIONAL MANAGER' it is his job to SECURE RESULTS, and winning a game is far easier if you don't concede, so defence is his priority. being solid at the back allows you the freedom to operate up front, i think you may find jos knows a thing or two more about football than you do, and you may find this confusing, IF you find it frustrating, there's some good films on at the cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 zzmdu, top angler with so little bait too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, horny owl said: Carlos was the worst Wednesday manager I've ever seen and I've been watching Wednesday since 1981 Bad doesn't even cover it He was an absolute joke Jos could never be as bad as that clown Yorath, Eustace, Irvine...and you call Carlos a clown FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Seems to be a more experienced and better manager and it's early doors. He'll clearly sort out discipline & fitness problems out. However on the pitch; seems to be an identical manager to Carlos. :very organised :very defensive :very narrow :no attack plan An improvement on Carlos; the Owlstalk Resident Cheerleaders won't like this; but can't see any real difference on the pitch. If you look at the way we tackled the two derby games from a defensive point of view then there is the difference. More progressive than that(midfield and attack) its too early to say and we have too ment injuries in those positions. I'm thinking chalk and cheese but each to their own. Edited January 27, 2018 by Jack the Hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 43 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: Then I'd question your footballing knowledge. Which is weird, because for all we disagree it seems you do understand the game, so I don't really get how you've come to this conclusion. I'd tell anyone that can't see the difference that they either need a trip to specsavers or they don't understand football. Are you sure you're not due a check-up at the opticians? i think some of the 'carlosites' will take some weaning off the 25 passes to the half way line, and totally unfit and uninterested players routine. add to that 'our passing triangles' as i saw them referred to as though 'effing about with the ball was some sort of atomic secret weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Cosby Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 The only team last night that resembled one led by Mr Carvalhal, was Reading. The difference in how we set up, how the players perform and the overall intent shown, is so obvious, it's blinding. I'm sorry, you can't see it, because despite the mistakes and overall indifferent quality in the performance last night, I for one, thoroughly enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: You want pace and width, with that team Wait til next season before you lay into him. He's only been in England 4 weeks. Said in the OP; that's it was a premature judgement. I hope we do purchase & play width and pace. Can't see it happening; but we'll see. Plenty of insults; but not much response to Jos playing with FIVE at the back. Fox & hunt playing deep. Edited January 27, 2018 by zzmdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 27 minutes ago, a_weishaupt said: Pudil is a winger. We played him at Centre Half. Yes he is a converted fullback, but so was Nigel Worthington - we never played him in the centre. Worthington was far too one footed to play anywhere but as far to the left as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Said in the OP; that's it was a premature judgement. I hope we do purchase & play width and pace. Can't see it happening; but we'll see. Plenty of insults; but not much response to Jos playing with FIVE at the back. He's playing 5 at the back because we struggle to defend playing 4 at the back. It's obvious he's going to build us in to a fast paced counter attack team. How can't you see that? Mr Blunkett can see it. Edited January 27, 2018 by Birley Owl 1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963owl Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 55 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Seems to be a more experienced and better manager and it's early doors. He'll clearly sort out discipline & fitness problems out. However on the pitch; seems to be an identical manager to Carlos. :very organised :very defensive :very narrow :no attack plan An improvement on Carlos; the Owlstalk Resident Cheerleaders won't like this; but can't see any real difference on the pitch. scoring 3 in a game is a big change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 There were occasions last night when it was a bit Carlos-esque, but far too early to make judgements. If we stick to 3-5-2 we need better wing backs to provide width going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Said in the OP; that's it was a premature judgement. I hope we do purchase & play width and pace. Can't see it happening; but we'll see. Plenty of insults; but not much response to Jos playing with FIVE at the back. Fox & hunt playing deep. credit for the first tentative "Jos out" post though, ZZ......Have you bookmarked it for bringing back up when he finally leaves? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Start inflammatory thread: check Bookmark: check Set Google Calendar alert for about two years from now: check Drop an "I told you so bomb": pending 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: credit for the first tentative "Jos out" post though, ZZ......Have you bookmarked it for bringing back up when he finally leaves? I know I said 4 games before the same faces would be slagging whoever came in off but I was half joking...thanks zzzzzzzzzzzmdu just call me Nostradamus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontCallMeOwlCallYou Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 32 minutes ago, hasthagotanycheese said: They may be our butterest rivals but it was only a narrow margarine of victory for them. This is the brand the scrubbers use, to be able to afford a tub of I can't believe it's not butter, they would have to sell the other half of their club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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