@owlstalk Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hookowl said: Not saying he brought it up - just that if he said it was private, why mention it, unless the question was specifically about players mentality ? Haven't watched it yet so my comment only related to what was written in the post yeah it'll make sense when you watch the video I guess I didnt' explain it well in the OP Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 39 minutes ago, Animis said: did the same with Rhodes and the penalty after the Huddersfield game. To be fair that was immediately after losing a penalty shoot out , I think I would have done the same, I would have been livid. Difficult to contain your thoughts in those moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 So tell us then ffs to get back on your side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 48 minutes ago, Hookowl said: If this is the case why mention it at a press conference It's an indirect way of letting the players know, that he knows. Instead of saying it in the changing room & all hell breaking loose. Same as the Rhodes penalty thing. I think he's saying 'bloody coward' & 'this is what I'm up against' by making it public, but not putting Rhodes down in front of the other players. We always seem to be rhubarb after a rest period. There was a break from our good run before the Hudders semis with the weaker team against Fulham. We didn't turn up then. We didn't at Wembley after a break. We didn't against Preston after time off & we didn't against Bolton. Do we still train etc in these non matchday periods? And if CC knows the mental problem, solve it. Can't fault his 'nads for saying we'll go up, and it is still only October. Rather have that than a manager who thinks mid-table or top half is an asheevement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 We know its not talent, that is the ruddy frustrating part of it. The mental side deficiency makes absolute sense to me, the old quote of the game being played between the ears as much as on the pitch I have no issue with the problem being just acknowledged but then kept as an internal matter. We have that thirst for knowledge but for me this is a case of not elaborating in the media as that could be self defeating in curing it. However what Carlos has to do is identify those players and if need be take them out of the firing line even for a short period. To me those play off defeats have had a long lasting impact - players and fans alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mercury Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 If its a mental problem, why the ruddy hell don't they get one of them life coaches/Psychiatrists in or something of that ilk for the players ? Loads of professional sportsman/athletes use these, must have some positive results for them so why not ? The talent is there in the squad, do everything you can to get them to use it ! He said the players were nervous before the Rangers in the pre-season friendly ffs, then get something done about it imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Losing twice in the play offs has had an impact on several players perhaps; now having to go through the whole process again to secure promotion? Wouldn't be the first time that a repeated runner-up athlete/squad fails miserably in a successive attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Surely its up to CC and his staff to sort this out then or bring someone in to help with this, or is it just another excuse. Edited October 19, 2017 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mr Mercury said: If its a mental problem, why the ruddy hell don't they get one of them life coaches/Psychiatrists in or something of that ilk for the players ? Loads of professional sportsman/athletes use these, must have some positive results for them so why not ? The talent is there in the squad, do everything you can to get them to use it ! He said the players were nervous before the Rangers in the pre-season friendly ffs, then get something done about it imo. No doubt we'll soon hear the owd 'players' scared to play at Hillsborough in fear of making a mistake' line. Funnily enough they never include the away performances in that, or maybe it's the same because of the amount of fans we take away. Perhaps we ought to have another riot and get the fans banned for a few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Another can of worms opened. Let the speculation begin... It wouldn’t exactly shock me to find out that some of our players are not mentally the toughest, but I’m not sure talking about it in a press conference is the wisest move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Not sure what to make of this, one or two players could argue the players fault, eight or nine players on a regular basis and more likely the managers fault. Nothing heard today changes my mind about CC. After the anger, disappointment and frustration of recent weeks towards performances and results, feels like we are in the eye of the storm, a little calm before impending stiller waters as we float along in mid table or shitstorm, depending on the next two results. Carlos has been responsible for the culture and mentality of this squad for the last 3 years, accepted quality is there but mentality an issue, therefore not sure how Carlos can be expected to recover this. Even more important for new leadership IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 What twaddle - it’s a tactical, selection and set up thing. ...that lies with the manager Get the above right and the players will feel comfortable and perform to the required levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, Mr Mercury said: If its a mental problem, why the ruddy hell don't they get one of them life coaches/Psychiatrists in or something of that ilk for the players ? Loads of professional sportsman/athletes use these, must have some positive results for them so why not ? The talent is there in the squad, do everything you can to get them to use it ! He said the players were nervous before the Rangers in the pre-season friendly ffs, then get something done about it imo. We do have a sports psychologist but he only speaks Portuguese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Easy fix. one days pay for each sideways or backwards pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, Ian_D said: Easy fix. one days pay for each sideways or backwards pass. I meant deducted, by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Bananne would owe the club I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lees Tom Cat Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Not surprised really. Lost the derby got hammered by fans...Then a few players lost the world cup qualification,Got hammered by national supporters,Return to lose to a team that hasn't scored for yonks,,get hammered by fans.All in the space of a few weeks. Bound to have a negative effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Can anyone imagine SAF or Brian Clough saying summat like this in a press conference?? Beggars belief. He's more effective when he gets a touchline ban TBH. Edited October 19, 2017 by Almat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Waiting for the obligatory players are too nervous to play infront of the fans excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 They feel lost without the blue and white stripes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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