jonnyowl Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Just seen the full interview with Carlos before the game yesterday, I think Agent has been speaking to Derby, they will offer him more money and Agent wants him to move! There is no footballing reason why FF would go to Derby! I think alot of this is the agents doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Wylde II Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 minute ago, sweetsheri said: He earns more in a month week than most fans earn in a year. He then takes the p!ss by pretending he is that skint he has to get a bike to work. Petulant, childish, arrogant. All too typical of the modern footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Agents are the scum of the earth ,and are destroying the game . They dont care about football , or the clubs ,all they are interested in is money and prostituting their players for as much as they can get. They are no better than pimps. Football managed perfectly well before agents came along , They should be banned from the game. Parasites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Wylde II Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I'm surprised no one at the club hasn't cracked him. No matter what the incoming players are on or the improved contract for Lees is worth, refusing to play is just outrageous. Why didn't he or his parasite speak to whoever sorts the finances and contracts out before turning into a complete tvvat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Just now, jonnyowl said: Just seen the full interview with Carlos before the game yesterday, I think Agent has been speaking to Derby, they will offer him more money and Agent wants him to move! There is no footballing reason why FF would go to Derby! I think alot of this is the agents doing! Thats a cop out The agent is employed by Forestieri and takes his instructions from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 minute ago, jonnyowl said: Just seen the full interview with Carlos before the game yesterday, I think Agent has been speaking to Derby, they will offer him more money and Agent wants him to move! There is no footballing reason why FF would go to Derby! I think alot of this is the agents doing! Of course it is. Players do what their agents tell them to do . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 24 minutes ago, Grandad said: Recently Tom Lees was reportedly the subject of a £5m bid from Burnley, who offered to pay him £25k a week. The club agreed to match his wage offer and he stayed. This means Lees is on around £0.5million a year more than FF. If I was FF I'd probably feel I deserved at least the same money as Lees There's no way I'd withdraw labour like he has, presumably that's down to culture, or his agent, but he is pressing his point. FF is by some distance the star of our team. He should be paid accordingly. FF might be the "star" of our team, but I'd argue he is not the most valuable. Not at this time, at least. Yesterday we played without FF and got a good point. Might have been a win with FF, might not. Without Tom Lees, we would almost certainly have suffered a heavy defeat, even with FF. As things stand now, we will miss FF, but we have decent options to cover for hIm. Tom Lees would have been replaced by Semedo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Anyone know what the rest of the squad are on ? BB, Hutch, Westwood etc . If players are going to chuck the teddy out of the pram 1 year into their contract having been quite happy to sign it then we are fookked His agent should have structured him a better deal if that was the case , Anyway we were told he was not money motivated just wanted to be loved ........... well we kept our side of the bargain . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Di Catio Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 21 minutes ago, BRADFIELDOWLS said: OK , looks like FF and his agent have bottled it but does leave open them wanting to move to a Premiership club. DC plays a blinder here, which with his dosh you can do, but we must now do a post Rooney scenario, forgive and forget, and get this guy playing again and winning games like Norwich. Remember, we'd all do the same and we tried to unsettle Alan Judge last season. Also, sends a strong signal to other teams that we can't be messed with. For me, our 4 points against 2 top teams is best start of all Championship teams, but we must get 4 points against Burton. That'd be some going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 24 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: It does beg the question was this the situation that Carlos meant when he made his " i don't speak with agents " and " a player must talk to me eyes to eyes " statement because he looked exasperated as foook when he said it Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza SPAL Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 hour ago, bexhill owl said: Why are you trying to engineer a move and why has your client not informed his manager of these personal reasons? CC clearly stated that FF refused to play, he mentioned nothing about personal circumstances. I hope everyone involved in this tapping up are punished. True, but to be fair he did say something about his head not being in the right place. I think it's more than likely just agent talk but you never know. A lot of us on here, me included have been very quick to judge. Would be a shame if he did have genuine reasons and we've all written him off as a c***. If he didn't want to leave before he will if he reads any of this. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 24 minutes ago, BRADFIELDOWLS said: OK , looks like FF and his agent have bottled it but does leave open them wanting to move to a Premiership club. DC plays a blinder here, which with his dosh you can do, but we must now do a post Rooney scenario, forgive and forget, and get this guy playing again and winning games like Norwich. Remember, we'd all do the same and we tried to unsettle Alan Judge last season. Also, sends a strong signal to other teams that we can't be messed with. For me, our 4 points against 2 top teams is best start of all Championship teams, but we must get 4 points against Burton. 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill owl Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Forza SPAL said: True, but to be fair he did say something about his head not being in the right place. I think it's more than likely just agent talk but you never know. A lot of us on here, me included have been very quick to judge. Would be a shame if he did have genuine reasons and we've all written him off as a c***. If he didn't want to leave before he will if he reads any of this. UTO Very true, I suppose there's also a chance things have been somewhat lost in translation, I'm starting to feel a lot less pissed off about it now, still gutted but not feeling as angry mad!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 29 minutes ago, BRADFIELDOWLS said: OK , looks like FF and his agent have bottled it but does leave open them wanting to move to a Premiership club. DC plays a blinder here, which with his dosh you can do, but we must now do a post Rooney scenario, forgive and forget, and get this guy playing again and winning games like Norwich. Remember, we'd all do the same and we tried to unsettle Alan Judge last season. Also, sends a strong signal to other teams that we can't be messed with. For me, our 4 points against 2 top teams is best start of all Championship teams, but we must get 4 points against Burton. 4 points against Burton........ How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffnet Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Had a quick scan at the potential tapping up clubs fan forums and only Derby fans have lengthy threads on this. However, at 7m bid, Wednesday should reject if only because they'll get more in January. Newcastle and Swansea fans barely have FF on their radar which seems to suggest that they aren't the tappers uppers. If they were, there's usually someone ITK that can't wait to drop hints and I don't see that happening. Even Derby fans are saying that Pearson is not the type to be impressed by a player going on strike. So it does see to me to be some crass attempt to scare Wednesday into giving FF a pay rise. Stupid way to ask for more money cos now he'll have to give a grovelling apology to everyone to be accepted again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob 13 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Corneliusreeve said: 4 points against Burton........ How? We're Sheffield Wednesday we do what we want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 can you hear "Diddums" Fernando? can I put some of those kiddies stabilisers on your bike? can i tickle tums Fernando? will it stop you being so mardy will it help to break the strike? If we all lay on the ground with trousers down, and you do anything you like? There is something in the air tonight.......... thats not quite right .. .Fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Chansiri "You won't be sold to another Championship club" FF "Ok, I want this amount of money my agent here to talk." Chansiri "Ok, we offer you this amount" FF agent "No my client wants this amount" Chansiri "No, this is the amount and here is the extended contract." FF agent "I will advise my client to reject his offer" Agent to FF... Agent "I have rejected the new contract and will push for a move, advisiable not to play due to personal reasons." FF " Ok will ring Carlos" FF "Hi boss, i dont feel in the right mind to travel to Norwich so im refusing to travel amd play." Carlos "Your choice but you are expected in training Sunday morning or punishment will happen." Agent tweet "Foresteri wants to play for no other club in the championship apart from swfc. He didnt travel for personal reasons." In English translated: Agent "The club wont deal with any other championship club, he hasnt travelled due to me not gettig him more money and a bigger cut for myself. Advised not to play, the bluff didnt work and in few days will accept Mr.Chansiri's new contract and we will put out a heartfelt apology to the fans and players." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJayOne Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 hour ago, iliveinthenow said: I remember Curbishley on Channel 5 this morning hinting at the "more money" idea. I was tempted to write a post about it earlier. Now having seen this post I am thinking it is more to do with this than Newcastle/Swansea. Username checks out. SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, tuttuttut said: Chansiri "You won't be sold to another Championship club" FF "Ok, I want this amount of money my agent here to talk." Chansiri "Ok, we offer you this amount" FF agent "No my client wants this amount" Chansiri "No, this is the amount and here is the extended contract." FF agent "I will advise my client to reject his offer" Agent to FF... Agent "I have rejected the new contract and will push for a move, advisiable not to play due to personal reasons." FF " Ok will ring Carlos" FF "Hi boss, i dont feel in the right mind to travel to Norwich so im refusing to travel amd play." Carlos "Your choice but you are expected in training Sunday morning or punishment will happen." Agent tweet "Foresteri wants to play for no other club in the championship apart from swfc. He didnt travel for personal reasons." In English translated: Agent "The club wont deal with any other championship club, he hasnt travelled due to me not gettig him more money and a bigger cut for myself. Advised not to play, the bluff didnt work and in few days will accept Mr.Chansiri's new contract and we will put out a heartfelt apology to the fans and players." Seems very plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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