room0035 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 17 hours ago, mogbad said: He hasn't scored 20 goals in a season throughout his career, the most he's got is 16 for Accrington in League 2, what makes you think he will score 20+ for us next season if we keep him? Because he will be playing with a lot better players than he was at Accrington. Lee Gregory got 17 goals last season, after barely getting near 10 for the two season before. league one is not a strong league. A shot on target has a 50:50 chance of being a goal, our big problem last season was our shots on target in total shots was very poor, but thats because we had very few games with two strikers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Inspector Lestrade said: But its not last season. It will be a new season and he will be available to play We get progressively worse coz we keep getting rid of our best players and not replacing them with same quality or better. Lets get rid of the poorer players instead. No, we get progressively worse because we have consistently failed to utilise the transfer market to our own benefit. Specifically we haven’t cashed in on players and reinvested when we should have. None of the poorer players will fetch £1m, and that’s money that might bring in 2-3 other good players to strengthen 2-3 other areas of the team. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I'd be very surprised if the offer is as high as a million. For an injury prone player from a 3rd tier English team who is getting on and only has a year left on his contract. Argentinian football is not awash with money. Talleres spent £3.78M on players last season, their most expensive signing was £1.5M on a 22 year old centre forward from River Plate. Argentinian teams sell their best players abroad for big fees but they don't spend very much on transfers within the Liga Profesional. Even the bigger clubs such as River Plate and Boca Juniors only pay £1-2M for players. I would imagine they would be offering a small amount up front and further payments based on appearances. I would be wary of such a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel. Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 If we didn’t have any money we’d not have covered the various losses we’ve made over the last few seasons and wouldn’t be talking about supporting the manager without an embargo now. 1m sales are good practice in isolation and show a bit of learning but a drop in the ocean in terms of managing losses and FFP. That’s why we will push for more otherwise it becomes almost 50/50 (depending on who we can bring in) and a bit of a crystal ball gazing exercise ie stick and hope for a better pay day from having more goals in the team or twist and make a bit of an isolated profit but respend it and see if we can do the same. For absolute no brainers it’s the kind of money we were offered for joao as that makes a big dent and if he gets sold this summer there is more income there also. Possibly more than what we’d get for windass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel. Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: I'd be very surprised if the offer is as high as a million. For an injury prone player from a 3rd tier English team who is getting on and only has a year left on his contract. Argentinian football is not awash with money. Talleres spent £3.78M on players last season, their most expensive signing was £1.5M on a 22 year old centre forward from River Plate. Argentinian teams sell their best players abroad for big fees but they don't spend very much on transfers within the Liga Profesional. Even the bigger clubs such as River Plate and Boca Juniors only pay £1-2M for players. I would imagine they would be offering a small amount up front and further payments based on appearances. I would be wary of such a deal. If that’s the case then I’d suspect they will be told where to go as millwall were last summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: No, we get progressively worse because we have consistently failed to utilise the transfer market to our own benefit. Specifically we haven’t cashed in on players and reinvested when we should have. None of the poorer players will fetch £1m, and that’s money that might bring in 2-3 other good players to strengthen 2-3 other areas of the team. Oh god another Football manager expert. What level are you on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 29 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Oh god another Football manager expert. What level are you on? I mean it was just a suggestion, really. We could always carry on waiting for players to run down their contracts and leave for nowt, which has worked wonders before. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: I mean it was just a suggestion, really. We could always carry on waiting for players to run down their contracts and leave for nowt, which has worked wonders before. Oh god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelman Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 28/05/2022 at 11:41, Inspector Lestrade said: Will cost double that to get a player of the same calibre. I’d settle for one half as good that plays 30+ games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Steelman said: I’d settle for one half as good that plays 30+ games. And we wonder why we are so crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Steelman said: I’d settle for one half as good that plays 30+ games. Yes, better a good player on the pitch than a brilliant player on treatment table 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, Steelman said: I’d settle for one half as good that plays 30+ games. He generally does... 20/21: 44 19/20: 25 18/19: 45 17/18: 41 16/17: 27 15/16: 35 14/15: 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, GermanBird said: Yes, better a good player on the pitch than a brilliant player on treatment table Trouble is he's a good player, so we would end up with an average player. Stop getting rid of our good players it's nonsensical!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Trouble is he's a good player, so we would end up with an average player. Stop getting rid of our good players it's nonsensical!!!! I am glad, if he WANTS to stay and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSheridansBigToe Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 28/05/2022 at 16:36, FreshOwl said: The league is irrelevant. Will Grigg went for £3m in this league, Jack Marriott £3m, Paddy McNair (whose a CB) over £5m. Not saying we’d get £5m but we could defo squeeze more out than £1m. Windass is 28 so should be at his peak and apart from last season had a good injury record. Has proven himself in the championship and held his own at Rangers Held his own what at Rangers? His own waterbottle at best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Just now, GermanBird said: I am glad, if he WANTS to stay and play. If he wants to leave then I'd say sell, no point in keeping players who don't want to be here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelman Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: He generally does... 20/21: 44 19/20: 25 18/19: 45 17/18: 41 16/17: 27 15/16: 35 14/15: 39 Then he comes to us and spends a season on the treatment table. Coincidence? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marro Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Not sure how much we paid for Windass but I would be tempted to cash in. I like Windass as a player but have difficulty seeing where he fits into the team. He’s almost a luxury player we don’t need IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: If he wants to leave then I'd say sell, no point in keeping players who don't want to be here. Deffo Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: You are putting up obstacles which aren't there. We do have money and DC will spend accordingly. Yes we have loads of money. That’s why we are only a few months on from our latest efl imposed restrictions due to financial mismanagement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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