Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, 83owl said: Yes we have loads of money. That’s why we are only a few months on from our latest efl imposed restrictions due to financial mismanagement. Good grief. Give it a rest look to the future instead of harping on about the past. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, Steelman said: Then he comes to us and spends a season on the treatment table. Coincidence? I think not. Exactly. He's not the first and he won't be the last to pick up a serious injury here. He did manage 53 games for us before getting injured, though. Whatever did happen as a result of that investigation into our injury record, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 46 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Trouble is he's a good player, so we would end up with an average player. Stop getting rid of our good players it's nonsensical!!!! I’m sure it will be a real stretch to replace 9 appearances and 4 goals with a million quid in League One. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, Marro said: Not sure how much we paid for Windass but I would be tempted to cash in. I like Windass as a player but have difficulty seeing where he fits into the team. He’s almost a luxury player we don’t need IMO. £500k I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 41 minutes ago, JohnSheridansBigToe said: Held his own what at Rangers? His own waterbottle at best? A direct goal involvement every 157 minutes is pretty decent, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: I’m sure it will be a real stretch to replace 9 appearances and 4 goals with a million quid in League One. Dear me that's a bit poor from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: I’m sure it will be a real stretch to replace 9 appearances and 4 goals with a million quid in League One. That was last season. He may well be fully fit and ready to play a full season again now. If he can match the 44 appearances he managed for us in the previous season, then we may well struggle to find a better option whilst we're in League One. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Get rid. Hardly ever plays. We need to learn lessons - we've seen this kind of situation countless times before at Hillsborough and more often than not we hang on to players that just don't contribute enough to cover what they cost. It has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Owl Be Back said: Get rid. Hardly ever plays. We need to learn lessons - we've seen this kind of situation countless times before at Hillsborough and more often than not we hang on to players that just don't contribute enough to cover what they cost. It has to change. He played 44 games the previous season. There is no reason why he can't do that again now he's over his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: That was last season. He may well be fully fit and ready to play a full season again now. If he can match the 44 appearances he managed for us in the previous season, then we may well struggle to find a better option whilst we're in League One. Forgive me (or any Wednesday fan) for being sceptical of the phrase “may well be fully fit”. Too many if’s and maybes for me there when there’s a million quid on the table. The way this type of thing has gone in the previous 6 years of the DC era is that we turn down the money, don’t get the other recruitment right, the player stays but does little and then leaves for nowt. Maybe once - just once - we try an alternative and see what happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Got to get rid...but we will probly give him a pay rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 minute ago, sheffield_dave said: Forgive me (or any Wednesday fan) for being sceptical of the phrase “may well be fully fit”. Too many if’s and maybes for me there when there’s a million quid on the table. The way this type of thing has gone in the previous 6 years of the DC era is that we turn down the money, don’t get the other recruitment right, the player stays but does little and then leaves for nowt. Maybe once - just once - we try an alternative and see what happens. If you are going to be that sceptical then they might as well not say anything, as you will simply dismiss with a wave of the hand. So the alternative is to sell him, buy two or three players hoping that they might come good. When we already have a tried and tested player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 minute ago, sheffield_dave said: Forgive me (or any Wednesday fan) for being sceptical of the phrase “may well be fully fit”. Too many if’s and maybes for me there when there’s a million quid on the table. The way this type of thing has gone in the previous 6 years of the DC era is that we turn down the money, don’t get the other recruitment right, the player stays but does little and then leaves for nowt. Maybe once - just once - we try an alternative and see what happens. Yeah, we've been burnt by hanging on to players and letting them walk away for nothing, which is why we should either extend his contract or try to do a deal. Keeping him with a year on his current makes no sense when there's good money on the table. But that's a separate issue to his injury, for me. If the medical team think that his issue is behind him, then we'd be daft to sell him based on a bad injury last season. It's not as if he's had serious issues throughout his career, is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveClark Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Pretty sure this was what Chansiri was talking about. The thing is, that price for someone we don't really know if he'll be fit for most of the season, it's a bit of a no brainer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzys Dad Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, sheffield_dave said: I mean it was just a suggestion, really. We could always carry on waiting for players to run down their contracts and leave for nowt, which has worked wonders before. When a player runs his contract down, the buying club pays the player the transfer fee, instead of paying the selling club. The overall cost of the deal will be roughly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 We have a serious investment in JW's recovery we should ask for a little more, closer to £1.6m without being greedy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 48 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: If you are going to be that sceptical then they might as well not say anything, as you will simply dismiss with a wave of the hand. So the alternative is to sell him, buy two or three players hoping that they might come good. When we already have a tried and tested player. Its a discussion forum, and it isn’t necessarily about being sceptical. There’s money on the table and there’s pros and cons to doing a deal. Theres a case for keeping Windass and a case for selling. I’m not desperate for Windass to go. He’s a talent. I just personally believe that the primary reason we are where we are is a failure to make decisions on letting certain players leave and maximising value. I’m also balancing the fact that we’re in League One with a team full of holes in it that need addressing this summer. I don’t believe any player is irreplaceable and think the money would be better off re-invested in the squad. I’d like to take the money. If not, hopefully he can stay fit and help for a greater portion of the season. We’ve obviously got a player at this level if he stays, I’m not denying that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: Its a discussion forum, and it isn’t necessarily about being sceptical. There’s money on the table and there’s pros and cons to doing a deal. Theres a case for keeping Windass and a case for selling. I’m not desperate for Windass to go. He’s a talent. I just personally believe that the primary reason we are where we are is a failure to make decisions on letting certain players leave and maximising value. I’m also balancing the fact that we’re in League One with a team full of holes in it that need addressing this summer. I don’t believe any player is irreplaceable and think the money would be better off re-invested in the squad. I’d like to take the money. If not, hopefully he can stay fit and help for a greater portion of the season. We’ve obviously got a player at this level if he stays, I’m not denying that. I agree overall with most of that very well put, but i maintain that if he wants to stay then we would be better off keeping him and look to improve the squad by moving out the "poorer" players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Get rid Offers nothing to the football club... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marro Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, mogbad said: £500k I believe. I’d be tempted to take the £1m offered then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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