FreshOwl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) The absolute only time I’ll excuse player abuse is if they’re purposefully not putting in the effort It’s free game then But this isn’t the case. And he’ll be hurting All he can do is learn Edited February 20, 2021 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 He does go to ground often - he seems to like that sliding tackle, but you simply can't do it in today's game. It should be coached out of him and hopefully the management will take him to one side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Not surprised to see many blaming a 19 year old lad for a bad bit of refereeing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Just feel more sorry for him this time in the circumstances. Especially after the Celtic news. We essentially agree so not sure why you’re singling out my posts I am not 'singling you out' just debating with you. I said I agreed with much of what you have said but feeling more sorry for him in relation to the Celtic news holds no weight for me. He made a stupid decision which impacted negatively on us in terms of getting a result. He wasn't playing very well up to that point, though he was far from the only one in that respect and he didn't contribute much at Stoke either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, NeonLeon said: Not surprised to see many blaming a 19 year old lad for a bad bit of refereeing. It’s not bad referring though. Those are the rules, whether we agree or not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Well yeah That's the managers actual job Perhaps he did tell him. The previous manager did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: The absolute only time I’ll excuse player abuse is if they’re purposefully not putting in the effort It’s free game then No No it isn't Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: I am not 'singling you out' just debating with you. I said I agreed with much of what you have said but feeling more sorry for him in relation to the Celtic news holds no weight for me. He made a stupid decision which impacted negatively on us in terms of getting a result. He wasn't playing very well up to that point, though he was far from the only one in that respect and he didn't contribute much at Stoke either. But you said people shouldn’t send him abuse? As a result of today he’s going to be getting even worse abuse from Wednesday fans telling him to ‘foook off out the club’ etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: No No it isn't I’m talking being called a prat etc, nothing sinister should ever be said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, FreshOwl said: I’m talking being called a prat etc, nothing sinister should ever be said Calling someone a prat on their social media because you personally think they didn't put the effort in? Nope - never excusable Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: But you said people shouldn’t send him abuse? As a result of today he’s going to be getting even worse abuse from Wednesday fans telling him to ‘foook off out the club’ etc etc. Don't know why you needed to raise a question to me on this. I completely disagree with anyone giving him abuse. Assessing and being critical of his performance is not abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, BIG D said: Personal abuse (which he will get) is disgusting but he certainly needs to grow up quick. Hopefully he’ll be doing it here I would have liked him to stay with us, the media appears to suggest he has gone though. I quite like the players in our side that look to intercept or steal the ball like Hutchinson Dunkley( not yet fit) Iorfa and Urhoghide, Shaw is a little bit at that but will make mistakes like a lot of youngsters will. Much prefer them to the "passives like Palmer, Lees and Pelupessy who cant pass and panick under pressure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 poor from him today, I don't get how he can make a mistake like that because he's grown up playing those rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, morganowl said: he is a stupid fool who is a liability . the most stupid 2 sending offs this season , i would never abuse him like some do but he has to expect massive stick for those 2 sendings off . does the manager have to tell him on a yellow card dont lunge in and cost us the game? we are a club heading for league 2 said this since october. On a yellow card, he should have been careful not careless. Bannan should have been in his ear after the first yellow. There is no leadership on the field..although at the back Dunkley leads but got taken off as "he was tired " at Stoke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, morganowl said: he is 19 not 12 . he has made a mans decision to leave our club for more money ,he did same against reading aint it about time he learnt? he has cost us 3-4 points now this season through his idiotic challenges in no mans land. id excuse him if he was bringing a player down what stopped a 1-1 with keeper etc but both red cards cannot be excused because he is 19. You must be so disappointed with Hutchinson, considering some if the challenges he's been sent off/booked for in his time here. Still there's plenty of time for him to learn eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 First was a clumsy foul and a yellow mostly due to location I thought. Second he won the ball but then went right through the player with the trailing leg. I thought both were yellow cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 If you don't tackle and be nice to the referee your unlikely to get booked but the people who put tackles in always run the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: It’s not bad referring though. Those are the rules, whether we agree or not He did win the ball though on the second one and his feet weren’t off the floor. This tells you every thing you need to know about today’s ref: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/amp/football/55922560 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/13999409/lee-mason-west-ham-dean-soucek-fourth-official/amp/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talksport.com/football/810859/wolves-boss-nuno-espirito-santo-charged-fa-referee-lee-mason/amp/ He’s been that bad he’s dropped by the PL so why is he deemed good enough for our level when lots of money is at stake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: He did win the ball though on the second one and his feet weren’t off the floor. This tells you every thing you need to know about today’s ref: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/amp/football/55922560 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/13999409/lee-mason-west-ham-dean-soucek-fourth-official/amp/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talksport.com/football/810859/wolves-boss-nuno-espirito-santo-charged-fa-referee-lee-mason/amp/ He’s been that bad he’s dropped by the PL so why is he deemed good enough for our level when lots of money is at stake Fair enough, so I’m sure it’ll get overturned then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I didn’t think the first was a yellow card at all. The second one was stupid as he gave the referee a decision to make even tho a while ago, it wouldn’t have been a booking. A minute before the sending off, Bannan was tugged back cynically to stop a break and no yellow card. You’ve also got Gary Gardner with 2 bits of gamesmanship at the end and yet no yellow card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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