M Royds Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, Grandad said: This is the one I was making last weekend for our family bubble get together... Midway thru Apologies for gratuitous use of chorizo... this was before shellfish and tomatoes added That looks proper nice. Looks like fridays tea is decided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: Had some huge success with grass seed recently - really thick gorgeous green grass. Would it work on hair? (asking for a friend) Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo2001 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Would it work on hair? (asking for a friend) Is his first name Barry ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Would it work on hair? (asking for a friend) Yes definitely. (Tell your friend to) post photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, Grandad said: Yes definitely. (Tell your friend to) post photos 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Kate ? I wish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, HarrowbyOwl said: The maximum points deduction is 12 points, plus or minus up to 9 points for aggravating or mitigating circumstances as the case may be. The sanctioning guidelines (from what can be pieced together because as far as I know they are not published) look something like this: So if your mate is right Kev the Disciplinary Commission must have either: found us to have overspent by 6-8m (suggesting that at least some of the proceeds from the ground sale have been allowed against FFP ), or we've been docked the maximum 12 points with 6 points awarded for mitigating factors I must say the reporting on the issue has been really vague from the journos. The case was originally heard by an EFL Arbitration Panel, where we challenged the EFLs right to refer us to a Disciplinary Commission. Presumably we lost the arbitration case (partly at least, though the misconduct charges agains DC, JR and KM were dropped). I guess we'll get the Disciplinary Commission decision soon enough if the hearing (the final stage of the proceedings) was last week. You could get to the stage where it is almost plea bargaining here. Both cases could have holes but there comes a time where the risk / reward of continuation for either party you draw a line. Who knows this is all conjecture There are also vested interests beyond just the EFL and SWFC here. Indirectly so eg the professionals who assisted the Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo2001 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: Yes definitely. (Tell your friend to) post photos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, tomo2001 said: Is his first name Barry ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, mkowl said: There are also vested interests beyond just the EFL and SWFC here. Indirectly so eg the professionals who assisted the Club. Arise Sir Dave Richards........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, mkowl said: You could get to the stage where it is almost plea bargaining here. Both cases could have holes but there comes a time where the risk / reward of continuation for either party you draw a line. Who knows this is all conjecture There are also vested interests beyond just the EFL and SWFC here. Indirectly so eg the professionals who assisted the Club. Those external interests also include Derby, reading and potentially villa. So do they need a precedent to be set for future cases? Maybe the sale is deemed to be legal, but we are on the naughty step for the backdating, or maybe the valuation? Hence 6 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: I like a little bit of moss.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Think the EFL must be wishing they dicnt open this can of worms, as us getting some points on the board make it harder for the EFL because if they give us a 9 pt deduction Barnsley or some other will maybe want to appeal it is not enough, whereby we will probably appeal it's too much, all becomes a mess. Might be far easier for all concerned to give a not guilty verdict and award us 9pts for all the hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: Nay Nay, Mr Monk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: My sideburns look like that at the moment. Roll on Saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sheff74 said: I have just had to google Ironopolis FC Yes Ironopolis played for a few years in Paradise (Boro 1) Boro 2 built a new ground on the corner of Paradise and called it Ayresome Park, but then the Balif came along and padlocked the gates. Bring on Boro 3 and Junhinio and another plastic stadium. They compete very hard with Leeds for most entities under a single banner= Tin Pot ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 PLEASE NOTE - When the verdict is delivered we will be closing this thread and having a new one 'THE EFL VERDICT THREAD' to make it an easier read for everyone 3 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 From the SWFC perspective and points docked will equate to loss of performance monies. What is each place in the table worth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, mkowl said: You could get to the stage where it is almost plea bargaining here. Both cases could have holes but there comes a time where the risk / reward of continuation for either party you draw a line. Who knows this is all conjecture There are also vested interests beyond just the EFL and SWFC here. Indirectly so eg the professionals who assisted the Club. Talking sense again stop it FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: PLEASE NOTE - When the verdict is delivered we will be closing this thread and having a new one 'THE EFL VERDICT THREAD' to make it an easier read for everyone Will there also be a simultaneous Appeal thread ? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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