OxonOwl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I don't know whether what we have supposed to have done is actually that bad. I haven't seen the exact case that the EFL are making. To me it seems like we have chosen to interpret the rules one way and the EFL are saying the rules are something different. If they were to win, they will be able to punish us for breaching FFP but can they make out that we have been naughty and have aggravated the the misconduct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sheff74 said: Would that be the posts where I dared to suggest that they have some decent players? Well stone me dead, who'd have thought that might be true after 2 promotions in 3 years and doing well in the top flight..? Lost 3 games on the bounce and you're still tòssing them off... Edited June 29, 2020 by markowl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, OxonOwl said: I don't know whether what we have supposed to have done is actually that bad. I haven't seen the exact case that the EFL are making. To me it seems like we have chosen to interpret the rules one way and the EFL are saying the rules are something different. If they were to win, they will be able to punish us for breaching FFP but can they make out that we have been naughty and have aggravated the the misconduct? Basically, they are accusing us of fiddling our accounts to get round FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, markowl said: What's it got to do with other clubs? My understanding is it's an independent panel. If we get a points deduction fair enough, if we don't, other clubs will have to suck it up. Because any club who gets relegated might feel they have a case, if our punishment isn't harsh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, Sheff74 said: Because any club who gets relegated might feel they have a case, if our punishment isn't harsh. And? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, markowl said: Lost 3 games on the bounce and you're still tòssing them off... You ok hun? X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Sheff74 said: You ok hun? X 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, OxonOwl said: To me it seems like we have chosen to interpret the rules one way and the EFL are saying the rules are something different. Obviously I'm not aware of the finer points of the evidence, but that seems a bit of a daytime TV interpretation of the charges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, S36 OWL said: Basically, they are accusing us of fiddling our accounts to get round FFP. The way I see our position is that we have pulled a fast one with the accounts which seems like it is ok with HMRC and now we are expecting the EFL to judge FFP based on these accounts. The EFL are taking the stance that we have pulled a fast one and should be judged on what they think the accounts should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: Obviously I'm not aware of the finer points of the evidence, but that seems a bit of a daytime TV interpretation of the charges. See my response to S36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Losing 6 would be ok considering we've just gained 4 since the restart imo. Does that reset our ability to spend again? Or are we still in the sht with the rolling 3 years? Haven't the EFL deferred P&S for a year with the virus? What a fkng circus this is. Just let clubs in the Championship spend up to what a relegated PL team can spend ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 the fact media are logged in - is normal surely blimey it's where a lot of local journos get info on henfleet etc it's not news that there is going to be a decision good or bad it's when my quotes FFS the EFL have had it in for us for years, this is an outrage pandering to clubs who've squandered their parachute cash or At last common sense from the independent panel having considered the facts found nothing to worry about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, markowl said: Well you started it pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sheff74 said: Because any club who gets relegated might feel they have a case, if our punishment isn't harsh. Why on earth are you worried about clubs who get relegated feeling hard done by? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Not sure what you can take from the fact that our QC has been tweeting about soy sauce this morning.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, EcclesallOwl said: Why on earth are you worried about clubs who get relegated feeling hard done by? I am not worried. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, OxonOwl said: I don't know whether what we have supposed to have done is actually that bad. I haven't seen the exact case that the EFL are making. To me it seems like we have chosen to interpret the rules one way and the EFL are saying the rules are something different. If they were to win, they will be able to punish us for breaching FFP but can they make out that we have been naughty and have aggravated the the misconduct? There were no rules preventing stadium sales. The only way we've broken a 'rule' is if the EFL successfully argue that all or part of the revenue from the stadium sale is disregarded for P&S purposes. That being a transaction EFL were consulted about beforehand, agreed to and signed off on when the accounts were initially ratified and embargo lifted. Suspect their biggest issue is timing of the sale and payment terms. While lawful and HMRC compliant, EFL may try to argue not applicable for that years accounts, seeing it as backdated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: A load of media outlets followed Owlstalk twitter in the last day so they must know something is imminent. am expecting something today If Wednesday win the case the Press won't be interested; it'll get half a sentence in a monthly round-up of obligatory 'lower-league news' and never be mentioned again. If the EFL win the case the Press will be looking for the most outrageous meltdown quotes from on here; so you know what to do lads and lasses.... Pin all of the blame on our former Chairman Feswick Montgomery-Puddlewick and his cronies on the Board for getting us into this mess! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, nbupperthongowl said: Not sure what you can take from the fact that our QC has been tweeting about soy sauce this morning.... He was tweeting about frangipanes last week. Seems remarkably chilled, which should be a good thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sheff74 said: Because any club who gets relegated might feel they have a case, if our punishment isn't harsh. I think we should just let Gibson decide the punishment then he will probably be happy 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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