room0035 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: All these journalists experts on here eh? Who'd have thought I have nothing against them but the Stir have been doing it for years. Look when we sign a player, we have the so and so has signed, we then get the same article printed 6 different ways over the next 2 weeks in the paper. Go on line now and look at the Stir there are there are 9 different articles about the Corona virus. How many different ways can you tell the same article. Call it modern journalism I just call it lazy journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Mister Soul said: The club have brought in new players since.. by definition that is recruitment. Why we chose to bring in an (seemingly) unfit Connor Wickham I can’t understand. Why, when our present starting 11 is poo, do we bring in 3 players in Jan who are generally deemed not good enough to improve that starting 11. Makes absolutely no sense. We don't have time to let players adjust/get match fit. We're in the shiite now and need immediate improvements. I appreciate no transfer will guarantee success but our record has been and remains dismal. Think how many players have been brought into the club since DC was here, that have had no real posititive impact on the team, several of whom have hardly ever player for us. Mindboggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, room0035 said: I have nothing against them but the Stir have been doing it for years. Look when we sign a player, we have the so and so has signed, we then get the same article printed 6 different ways over the next 2 weeks in the paper. Go on line now and look at the Stir there are there are 9 different articles about the Corona virus. How many different ways can you tell the same article. Call it modern journalism I just call it lazy journalism. You're assuming that everyone is like yourself and has seen the previous articles etc Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: You're assuming that everyone is like yourself and has seen the previous articles etc Indeed but before everything went online the standard of news in the local paper just seem better. I would be surprised if Dom and who ever is now the Journo for the owls even attends the pre match press conference because you never hear any direct questions coming from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: You're assuming that everyone is like yourself and has seen the previous articles etc Do you think our journalists/local papers are doing a good job? Doing everything possible to get the facts for their readers? Or do you think they just tow the party line, keep in everyone's good books so they are allowed to ''cover'' the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: It’s simple to get round that tho Just go into private mode on your browser Fantastic advice, than you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Stoop said: I just delete my history after every 5 free articles, it resets and you then get another 5 Only a seasoned history deleter like me knows these things Scared of your browsing history falling into the wrong hand eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: And sued/shut down Only a muppet would publish material that is not factually based or correct (at time of going to press). It is also ok to report and publish comment on allegations I think that it’s more about an appetite for bravery. A football club would always need the local press as much as the local press would need access to a football club. Trains and Gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 The star is suffering a slow death, which is a shame it ought to be a lot faster. The Star and accociated press are 20 years behind, bombing readers with ads and spam won't work. In fact they ought re-launch Alta Vista. Even some 'decent newspapers' are having probs getting subscribers, the star ain't got a chance of being a success online....the owners btw, nothing against some of their reporters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 5 hours ago, @owlstalk said: It’s simple to get round that tho Just go into private mode on your browser Oh aye what sites you been looking on? Never thought to try that will give it a go, as Im only allowed five stories a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: The star is suffering a slow death, which is a shame it ought to be a lot faster. The Star and accociated press are 20 years behind, bombing readers with ads and spam won't work. In fact they ought re-launch Alta Vista. Even some 'decent newspapers' are having probs getting subscribers, the star ain't got a chance of being a success online....the owners btw, nothing against some of their reporters... What else can they do? They certainly have gone down market since the newspapers only days. Dunno about the paper content nowadays hardly ever look at The Star, online it can be very sensational, clickbait I guess. Sad really it used to be a good read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 5 hours ago, SiJ said: Kind of smacks of someone over estimating their own self importance. What Alan "on the fence" Biggs! He never commits to knowing anything and as a journalist should tell the people that he is responsible to, ie his readers (I tend not to read them, but this one caught my eye while eating my brekky), which questions he has asked of whom and how they chose to answer them, refuse to answer them or refer him to ask somebody else. I have had issue with quite a few of Biggsy's articles bsaying nothing and not read any for a long time now, but I thought that this title was a bit more demanding and, reading between the lines, he was telling the fans to get off their 'rses and do something about what is going on at the club directly, rather than relying on the Stirs lazy reporters, who let's face it, have gone rapidly downhill since the days of Paul "Terry Henfleet" Thompson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: What else can they do? No idea but slow loading pages, popups, sounds, ads every few lines will turn people off....it's like a dodgy muck site with no muck...somebody told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullitsAA Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 hours ago, SiJ said: Kind of smacks of someone over estimating their own self importance. I didn't even read it for the same reason . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 hours ago, torres said: Do you think our journalists/local papers are doing a good job? Doing everything possible to get the facts for their readers? Or do you think they just tow the party line, keep in everyone's good books so they are allowed to ''cover'' the club? I’ve always made reference back to the Midlands football phone in (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03lh0yw) as a bench mark for football journalism; they have past players on that talk sense, and the guy who runs the show tells it how it is. This is what’s needed, a return to the old P&G format. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 11 hours ago, SiJ said: Kind of smacks of someone over estimating their own self importance. Is this one of those articles where he biggs himself up ? FFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 8 hours ago, George said: If Biggs had not been such a dishonest poopydoo in his coverage of Dave Allen's tenure at Hillsborough then we might not be in this mess. And Chesterfield might still be in the league. As one of those subject to legal action by the club's board back in the day, I have little respect for the way the local press did not hold them suitably accountable and were little more than sycophants and propagandists. But of all the issues leading us to be in the chest high sewage of the present, I can honestly say that it never occurred to me that Alan Biggs was one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 11 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Here comes ToppOwl - the definitive source of which journalists are good or not If anyone in here hasn’t noticed, the footballing press and pundit panel are all praising Wilder and rightly so. Whilst we come on here every night bemoaning our luck, he’s enjoying the gap. I can’t stand the man, but he’s worked wonders on a shoestring budget. Wednesday on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbirks Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Nonsense article. We complain that the journalism is opinion parading as investigation, and they respond with even more opinion. Also, the only way he could have the sense that anyone is blaming journalists is if he was on Owlstalk. There's hardly been a fansgroup statement or matchday banner denouncing The Star, has there? Bless it, The Star is just an online offline Owlstalk, but with only three posters and a hell of a lot of clickbait. Edited March 12, 2020 by cbirks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbirks Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 "I say “suggestions” because that is all they can be. You can’t tell someone who has sunk many millions into a business how to run it." So will we all be politely applauding if he sells off our assets and leaves us on the brink off administration? What 'don't upset the masters' drivel. The man should be ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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