JOCOWl Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 hours ago, megsonstheman said: Has to start next game. How on earth Monk puts Murphy in the side ahead of him is crazy. Murphy never has or never will cut it here at hillsborough. Give Lee a chance to get back to match fitness, we all know he's a quality player, is he past it? we don't know cos Monk doesn't play him. I'm still holding on to the hope that he comes back to the player he was a couple of seasons ago, although no signs of it yet. On his day he makes such a difference, always looks to move the ball forward, none of this turning back as the first reaction. Gets the ball moving forward and quickly. Also has a knack of being in the right place. Give some game time and see if his form returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Lee is probably my favourite player over the last 20 years or so but not sure he’s the answer now. Big shame but injuries have taken its toll. We need fletcher back ASAP and we need a pace option up top. We could do with getting Borner back in the side as well. We won’t be far away then and will be a match for anyone in this dire league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Bleeder said: Couldn't agree more. Hutchinson and/or Bannan dropping to pick the ball off Tom Lees toe leaves a gaping hole in the middle of the park that needs someone in it. No link up play whatsoever, just long, often hopeful balls from Bannan. I know that they've both got their strengths but hate to see Bannan and Hutch in CM together.... so little forward movement... Is it possible that Hutch and Bannan HAVE to drop back to take the ball off Tom Lees' toe because Tom's passing is shybo ?? FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I dont know how to break this to some of you but Lee isnt good enough. The midfield needs a major clearout with players that can dominate games and stand up and be counted in the games that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 hours ago, NorthernOwl said: Lee has done nothing when he has played. We should never have given him a new contract. Almost seemed like a sympathy contract after his bad injury I think us being massively short in depth for CM was another reason and give his injury record recently, he was always going to be a cheap option to retain to add that depth for this season. 1 year deal where other players would have demanded longer, especially from other clubs, knows the club and the squad, has natural ability... But next season that’s obviously a different outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy30 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Love the guy and gutted to say it but lee is so far off the pace this season. He ain’t the answer and neither is reach in centre mid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rentaghost Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Game last night was crying out for someone like lee, our forward line was static and literally in a line, no willingness to drop in for the ball, with there defence doing a good job of covering the space in behind and stopping the wingers getting many crosses in. Then bannan or hutch dropped in deep to collect leaving reach and the other midfield marked out the game, which became even worse when we went 442. Which forced us long, against two 6ft something centre halves. Lee would of found the spaces in the midfield to help us turn on the floor in tight spaces. Instead of a hoof ball game we couldn’t possibly win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 13 hours ago, paddyowl said: Borner has to come back in too You would think so..he is our best defender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 9 hours ago, cognacbarnowl said: Is it possible that Hutch and Bannan HAVE to drop back to take the ball off Tom Lees' toe because Tom's passing is shybo ?? FFS It certainly contributes. I know Tom Lees is a decent defender but he's very poor with the ball at his feet. Having said that, neither Hutch nor Bannan make the instinctive runs between the lines that Lee and to a slightly lesser extent Luongo make. We missed this yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheowls Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: The midfield needs a major clearout with players that can dominate games and stand up and be counted in the games that matter. This could have been posted 3 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Every time I see Murphy I ask myself "How did he get a 10-12 million pound move to a Premier club?" He doesn't tackle, he doesn't win headers, he gets knocked off the ball far too easily and he rarely delivers an end product. Lee offers more but I think Luongo should be in if fit but he seemingly has a problem finishing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said: Every time I see Murphy I ask myself "How did he get a 10-12 million pound move to a Premier club?" He doesn't tackle, he doesn't win headers, he gets knocked off the ball far too easily and he rarely delivers an end product. Lee offers more but I think Luongo should be in if fit but he seemingly has a problem finishing games. Luongo had a superb Reach-esque fitness record prior to coming here. He’s a 90 minute week-in week-out player. I’m not worried long-term about his fitness. Unfortunately he’s been stop-start for us so far. He was under-used early season imo. I think he should have been our second-pick CM afterBannan, but Lee and Hutch were preferred. Even when we played 3 CMs he wasn’t a regular. I think our team needs a Bannan-Luongo midfield. I know most will disagree, because Hutchinson would be in most of our Xls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 10 hours ago, cognacbarnowl said: Is it possible that Hutch and Bannan HAVE to drop back to take the ball off Tom Lees' toe because Tom's passing is shybo ?? FFS Possibly, with Borner in, you can see he brings the ball out of defence so that allows the midfield to push up higher slightly ... We are also missing Luongo who drives forward with the ball Problem with Bannan in midfield is he drops too deep and doesn't drive forward enough with the ball from there .. much better higher up with the ball but then Hutch isn't one to bring the ball on neither ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 hours ago, edited said: This could have been posted 3 years ago It was time and time again after the play off final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Kieron Lee reminds me a lot of Frankie Simek. One of best players until he has a serious injury, battled his way back but was never the same player again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheowls Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Ronnie Starling said: It was time and time again after the play off final. Sorry, thats what i meant. We’ve known it all this time and not done anything about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 We need Kieran lee back in the team, we should have never released hooper and we should definitely be looking to bring in Ben 10 to give us another option out wide and try and get Wickham on loan again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfern Froggatt Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 he should be playing in the U23s every week to prove his match fitness first - every time he has come on this season it looks like hes not played for months - which has been the case. The fact that Monk isn't doing this suggests he doesn't really fancy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 19 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: It was time and time again after the play off final. But we did massively revamp our midfield since then, with the likes of Abdi, Boyd, Butterfield, Jones, Emanuelson, Buckley, Sougou, Melo, and McManaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast of Boulogne Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I think his time as a championship player is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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