Ellis Rimmer Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: I’ve been Westwood’s biggest fan and he’s been brilliant for Wednesday, but he needs dropping! I want to see Monk being ruthless dropping the likes of Westwood for individual mistakes and also addressing our mental fragility. Palmer should also spend some time out of the team after his suspension. But the replacement is markedly worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Ellis Rimmer said: But the replacement is markedly worse Well, I would have said that as well. But Westwood has made so many clangers this season and he’s cost us so many points. He needs time out of the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: But the replacement is markedly worse His replacement has played 3 league games and conceded one goal. KW is giving them a goal a game at the minute so I’m not sure how he’s markedly worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 5 hours ago, frastheowl said: It might seem reactionary (although, mistakes week after week, make that argument a tad weaker), but there is no doubt, there is serious, glaring issues creeping into Westwood's performances. He's declining. That's natural, he's getting on, and he's not the fittest specimen we've ever had either, with the number of injuries he's had perhaps catching up with him. And despite his decrease in performances, there's no getting away what a fantastic servant he's been for us. However, a criticism labelled at the club for a number of years, has been the inability to see a depreciating asset and plan for it. Westwood now falls into this category. And there has to be a serious consideration by Monk, to think long term. Whether that's Dawson, Wildsmith or if he feels neither of those two are up to it, A. N. Other. But, the goalkeeping situation is going to need addressing...soon. It makes little sense to keep playing a 35 year old goalkeeper who continues to make regular game changing mistakes. The rumours of Dawson potentially leaving for nothing is another worrying sign. There's little point producing these promising youngsters, if we block their development...even when the experienced incumbent isn't performing. And regarding yesterday's goal, of course, the source of the issue comes from Palmer. Palmer does his job, and the penalty doesn't happen. But, there's no getting away from the fact, Westwood has made yet another rash decision. The challenge took place on the edge of the box, wide of the goal. It was a rash and careless decision. No getting away from that. No use talking sense on here. Our fans have their favourites and no matter what they will be idolised. KW the best keeper in the league, any championship manager would want BB in his team, FF is the best player in the league are all phrases that keep cropping up which shows just how much we live in the past. Leeds sold/released 15 players at the start of this season, had we sold FF a few years ago the fans would have had a meltdown, some are still complaining now about us releasing hooper. It’s no wonder we accept mediocrity and have a terrible record of bringing youth players through with this kind of attitude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Our Academy does not produce players of Championship standard let alone Premier league standard. We are far too conventional in our selection of youngsters. Teams like Charlton Southampton and SUFC have contiually brought through players of Premier league standard in recent years and in some cases higher still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 21 hours ago, Binky Griptite said: We just gave West Brom a game at their place and deserved at least a point. Still, let the drama commence. And came away with f*ck all thanks to Westwood As has been said before, Dawson would get slated on here for weeks if he did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Spot on Todwick Owl. Westwood who used to be a great keeper but he came charging out and a penalty was inevitable. It was a repeat of his dreadful error at Reading earlier this season His mind just seems to go haywire and he never seems to learn. THe WBA player still had a fair bit to do to score but the rush of blood by Wesrtwood cost us a point that we really deserved yeterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Pretty simple really... Palmer has a moment and should never have left that ball, however; no goalkeeper should be coming out like Westwood did. It was another rush of blood to the head and another error on his part. Two gaffes against Swansea and part of another one yesterday. It is costing us points. Is Dawson the answer? I don't know, but it is getting to that point where he has to be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I thought Westwood displayed poor judgement for both goals, although penalty was particularly bad. It’s starting to look like Jos might have called this one right - perhaps the club should have stuck with Dawson and taken the opportunity to reduce the wage bill at the end of last season. As it stands we have a keeper with a contract until 2021 who is looking increasingly like a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Hope we get a young Prem loan in for next season, Westwood as backup would make us much stronger. Can't see Dawson making it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Dawson just has to play on Wednesday. We cannot have a keeper making mistakes every game. Westwood knows he is making error after error so it might be better for him to come out of the firing line and hopefully come back stronger in a few weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I forgot to add but leaving out Westoowd will enable us to see if Dawson could just make it at this level. None of us really know at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Berate Westwood as much as you want, the so called defending from Iorfa and Palmer is nothing short of embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 21 hours ago, james o connor said: Regardless of whose fault it is , Westwood is so far past it he is starting to resemble pressmans sad state when he became useless in his later years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Westwood charging two years ago would have got that comfortably. A few years later after injuries and age not on his side he needs to accept he won’t get these now. He did it against Reading, did it yesterday and even coming to challenge balls into the area, a few years ago no problem but this season he’s not comfortable, he’s certainly not agile enough for this anymore. He needs to listen to his body and change the way he makes a decision. Still a great keeper in him but he needs to adjust. In the mean time I’d give Dawson a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, 83owl said: His replacement has played 3 league games and conceded one goal. KW is giving them a goal a game at the minute so I’m not sure how he’s markedly worse. Can't you remember when he had a run in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frastheowl Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Kanye West said: Berate Westwood as much as you want, the so called defending from Iorfa and Palmer is nothing short of embarrassing. This hypocrisy is ridiculous. You’re happen to ignore an error by someone who’s “idolised.” Yet willing to throw two other players under the bus. Palmer was the main culprit in the goal...no getting away from that. But Westwood’s rashness shouldn’t be excused, nor ignored. But it’s what happens. Certain players will get the blame regardless, others seem to be as excusable as Boris Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Lost count of how many errors Westwood has made this season. At 35 absolute bonkers to give him a 2 year deal. Let Dawson make the number 1 shirt his own. He’s young, hungry and is nowhere near as bad as some people make out. 4 starts this season, 3 clean sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Kanye West said: Berate Westwood as much as you want, the so called defending from Iorfa and Palmer is nothing short of embarrassing. This too. Iorfa gets a lot of praise, but his concentration levels are very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Can't you remember when he had a run in the team I can remember and he made very few mistakes which is a statement that cant be made against westwood this season .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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