bradowl Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 55 minutes ago, Rogerwyldesmullet said: Growing up in my day you always had the impression that we were a big club because we could match or even exceed the kind of crowds that most of the successful teams attracted. Man U and Liverpool were maybe out on their own but Arsenal Spurs Chelsea etc were nothing special as the picture attached attests. Things have changed massively now with clubs like West Ham attracting 50k/week but it wasn’t always like that in an era when a fine club like Ipswich were attracting 11k. Makes me wonder what kind of crowds we’d get if we had a successful period now and got our pricing sorted out! Our attendances were very mixed that season, highest 48,000 v Man Utd - lowest surprisingly 16,000 v Arsenal. League Results Date Opponents Result Posn Attendance Scorers 1. Sat 17 Aug CHELSEA................. 1-1 13 26,164 Mick Lyons 2. Wed 21 Aug Nottingham Forest....... 1-0 5 18,367 Simon Stainrod 3. Sat 24 Aug Manchester City......... 3-1 3 26,934 Brian Marwood 2, Garry Thompson 4. Mon 26 Aug WATFORD................. 2-1 2 21,962 Lee Chapman, Mel Sterland 5. Sat 31 Aug Oxford United........... 1-0 2 9,334 Siggi Jonsson 6. Tue 3 Sep EVERTON................. 1-5 3 30,065 Brian Marwood 7. Sat 7 Sep WEST HAM UNITED......... 2-2 3 19,287 Lee Chapman, Garry Thompson 8. Sat 14 Sep Arsenal................. 0-1 7 23,108 9. Sat 21 Sep Tottenham Hotspur....... 1-5 9 23,601 Lee Chapman 10. Sat 28 Sep LUTON TOWN.............. 3-2 7 17,887 Brian Marwood 2, Lee Chapman 11. Sat 5 Oct Birmingham City......... 2-0 6 11,708 Mel Sterland, Own Goal 12. Sat 12 Oct COVENTRY CITY........... 2-2 5 19,132 Lee Chapman, Carl Shutt 13. Sat 19 Oct Leicester City.......... 3-2 5 10,259 Lee Chapman, Siggi Jonsson Brian Marwood 14. Sat 26 Oct WEST BROMWICH ALBION.... 1-0 3 19,873 Lee Chapman 15. Sat 2 Nov Queens Park Rangers..... 1-1 3 12,123 Glynn Snodin 16. Sat 9 Nov MANCHESTER UNITED....... 1-0 3 48,105 Lee Chapman 17. Sat 16 Nov Aston Villa............. 1-1 5 13,849 Paul Hart 18. Sat 23 Nov SOUTHAMPTON............. 2-1 5 18,955 Lee Chapman, Brian Marwood 19. Sat 30 Nov Ipswich Town............ 1-2 5 12,918 20. Sat 7 Dec NOTTINGHAM FOREST....... 2-1 5 22,495 Mark Chamberlain, Brian Marwood 21. Sat 14 Dec Chelsea................. 1-2 5 19,658 Brian Marwood 22. Sat 21 Dec MANCHESTER CITY......... 3-2 5 23,177 Gary Megson, Mel Sterland Garry Thompson 23. Thu 26 Dec NEWCASTLE UNITED........ 2-2 6 30,269 Brian Marwood, Garry Thompson 24. Sat 28 Dec Everton................. 1-3 6 41,536 Garry Thompson 25. Wed 1 Jan Liverpool............... 2-2 6 38,964 Carl Shutt, Garry Thompson 26. Sat 18 Jan OXFORD UNITED........... 2-1 6 18,565 Brian Marwood, Own Goal 27. Sat 1 Feb Watford................. 1-2 8 13,144 Gary Megson 28. Sat 22 Feb TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR....... 1-2 9 23,232 Garry Thompson 29. Sat 1 Mar Luton Town.............. 0-1 9 10,206 30. Sat 8 Mar BIRMINGHAM CITY......... 5-1 8 17,491 Carl Shutt 3, Mark Chamberlain Lee Chapman 31. Sat 15 Mar Coventry City........... 1-0 6 10,168 Mel Sterland 32. Tue 18 Mar LEICESTER CITY.......... 1-0 6 18,874 Mel Sterland 33. Sat 22 Mar West Ham United......... 0-1 6 16,604 34. Sat 29 Mar LIVERPOOL............... 0-0 7 37,946 35. Mon 31 Mar Newcastle United........ 1-4 7 25,614 Carl Shutt 36. Tue 8 Apr QUEENS PARK RANGERS..... 0-0 9 13,157 37. Sun 13 Apr Manchester United....... 2-0 9 32,334 Carl Shutt, Mel Sterland 38. Wed 16 Apr ARSENAL................. 2-0 6 16,344 Carl Shutt, Mel Sterland 39. Sat 19 Apr ASTON VILLA............. 2-0 6 19,782 Gary Megson, Mel Sterland 40. Tue 22 Apr West Bromwich Albion.... 1-1 6 6,201 Brian Marwood 41. Sat 26 Apr Southampton............. 3-2 6 15,375 Paul Hart, Gary Shelton Carl Shutt 42. Sat 3 May IPSWICH TOWN............ 1-0 5 22,369 Brian Marwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, ohgoditsjames said: We would without a doubt average above 30k in the Premier league. We averaged above 27k 3 seasons ago. The supporters are there, just wish people would stop having excuses not to go, we were 3rd before the match on Saturday and people couldn’t be arsed to go. Well if the chairman would stop trying to charge over £39 then the pay on the gate crowd would more than likely reappear for games like that. Plus you have ridiculous kick off times and sky tv showing us live every other week. If I didn't have a season ticket I wouldn't have bothered going either, infact I wouldn't go at all for the prices he charges its outrageous. Its not that people 'can't be arsed' they literally can't afford to, £39 is a stupid amount of money especially to those on lower incomes with kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 This was the season post Heysel, post the Bradford fire Hooliganism still an issue, poor stadiums and facilities Football probably at its lowest ebb Ironically no Sky and TV coverage was poor as a result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, bradowl said: Our attendances were very mixed that season, highest 48,000 v Man Utd - lowest surprisingly 16,000 v Arsenal. League Results Date Opponents Result Posn Attendance Scorers 36. Tue 8 Apr QUEENS PARK RANGERS..... 0-0 9 13,157 Sorry, lowest was v QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, bradowl said: We would average more than 30,000 if we were in Premier league now, would these 3 clubs average over 20,000 spending 20 years outside top flight football? I doubt it very much. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 hours ago, ohgoditsjames said: We would without a doubt average above 30k in the Premier league. We averaged above 27k 3 seasons ago. The supporters are there, just wish people would stop having excuses not to go, we were 3rd before the match on Saturday and people couldn’t be arsed to go. Live in your living room or £46, tricky one this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, the monk said: Live in your living room or £46, tricky one this If you can get to the match, without restrictions like distance or prior commitments then its an easy choice. Go support your team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadzilla Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 By the time we reach the Premiership again SAG will make sure our attendances are under 20k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, bradowl said: 36. Tue 8 Apr QUEENS PARK RANGERS..... 0-0 9 13,157 37. Sun 13 Apr Manchester United....... 2-0 9 32,334 Carl Shutt, Mel Sterland 38. Wed 16 Apr ARSENAL................. 2-0 6 16,344 Carl Shutt, Mel Sterland 39. Sat 19 Apr ASTON VILLA............. 2-0 6 19,782 Gary Megson, Mel Sterland 40. Tue 22 Apr West Bromwich Albion.... 1-1 6 6,201 Brian Marwood 41. Sat 26 Apr Southampton............. 3-2 6 15,375 Paul Hart, Gary Shelton Carl Shutt 42. Sat 3 May IPSWICH TOWN............ 1-0 5 22,369 Brian Marwood I do remember those days before the Premier league and do remember attendances used to really fall off last few weeks of the season if nothing much to play for. Less then 6,500 though away at WBA! Edited October 30, 2019 by matthefish2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengrass Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Quadzilla said: By the time we reach the Premiership again SAG will make sure our attendances are under 20k I was thinking this on Saturday when they announced the attendance against L@@ds. Not sure we are going to see north of 30k in Hilsborough again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBQ24 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 hours ago, bradowl said: We would average more than 30,000 if we were in Premier league now, would these 3 clubs average over 20,000 spending 20 years outside top flight football? I doubt it very much. This 100%. Despite 20 years of abject poo, despite mismanagement, despite an ageing stadium, despite being 30 miles away from Champions League football every season, despite little promise that things are ever going to change. We are still getting 23,000 fans through the doors week in, week out. Outside Man U, Man C, Liverpool, Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Arsenal I don't think any of the current Prem would manage this if they suffered what we have. If we went up, stayed there and had the capacity I think we'd get 35,000 to 42,000 every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowOwl Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 As mentioned, put any of the Prem clubs in the bottom half of the Championship, at home to Bristol City on a Tuesday night in November, on sky red button for the 5th year in a row, and every club in the country would be poorly supported. Leeds & Us in this league would be the only ones to scrape an ok attendance. All of the south coast Prem teams would be low. Most of the mid table pack would also be poor (Wolves/Watford/Everton/Burnley, Leicester) Man City without their millions would be closest to us, but not if Man Utd were a big club still. Chelsea/Arsenal/Spurs/West Ham probably the same as us due to history. TV and Prem money has made crowd figures so skewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Rider Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Rogerwyldesmullet said: Growing up in my day you always had the impression that we were a big club because we could match or even exceed the kind of crowds that most of the successful teams attracted. Man U and Liverpool were maybe out on their own but Arsenal Spurs Chelsea etc were nothing special as the picture attached attests. Things have changed massively now with clubs like West Ham attracting 50k/week but it wasn’t always like that in an era when a fine club like Ipswich were attracting 11k. Makes me wonder what kind of crowds we’d get if we had a successful period now and got our pricing sorted out! From memory we gave Robert Maxwell a lot stick with our chants that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 We would sell out Hillsborough easily in the premiership. Football has boomed since the 80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I've never aspired to the comments "If we were in the premier league we'd easily average 30k" Why? we haven't for over 50 years! It's easier than ever to not go to a game and just watch it on a stream (legal or otherwise). We even had people predicting a 30k plus crowd for the L**ds game if it was cheaper. It's just not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bulldog said: I've never aspired to the comments "If we were in the premier league we'd easily average 30k" Why? we haven't for over 50 years! It's easier than ever to not go to a game and just watch it on a stream (legal or otherwise). We even had people predicting a 30k plus crowd for the L**ds game if it was cheaper. It's just not going to happen. some smaller clubs gates have doubled since the days we were in the prem...theres no reason ours should'nt rise in comparison.... Ive listed these before.... Wednesday are not an anomoly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Leicester...crowds doubled Norwich crowds up 10'000 Southampton..crowds doubled Newcastle United up 16'000 West Ham crowds doubled Spurs plus 20'000 These are all since 2000 when we dipped Others from the time that paper was printed are even more remarkable... What earthly reason is there that Wednesday would not put a meagre 5k on the gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 hours ago, bradowl said: 1. Sat 17 Aug CHELSEA................. 1-1 13 26,16 Mick Lyons 21. Sat 14 Dec Chelsea................. 1-2 5 19,658 Brian Marwood 3. Sat 24 Aug Manchester City......... 3-1 3 26,934 Brian Marwood 2, Garry Thompson 22. Sat 21 Dec MANCHESTER CITY......... 3-2 5 23,177 Gary Megson, Mel Sterland Garry Thompson 9. Sat 21 Sep Tottenham Hotspur....... 1-5 9 23,601 Lee Chapman 28. Sat 22 Feb TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR....... 1-2 9 23,232 Garry Thompson 16. Sat 9 Nov MANCHESTER UNITED....... 1-0 3 48,105 Lee Chapman 37. Sun 13 Apr Manchester United....... 2-0 9 32,334 Carl Shutt, Mel Sterland 17. Sat 16 Nov Aston Villa............. 1-1 5 13,849 Paul Hart 39. Sat 19 Apr ASTON VILLA............. 2-0 6 19,782 Gary Megson, Mel Sterland 23. Thu 26 Dec NEWCASTLE UNITED........ 2-2 6 30,269 Brian Marwood, Garry Thompson 35. Mon 31 Mar Newcastle United........ 1-4 7 25,614 Carl Shutt 25. Wed 1 Jan Liverpool............... 2-2 6 38,964 Carl Shutt, Garry Thompson 34. Sat 29 Mar LIVERPOOL............... 0-0 7 37,946 Looking at the fixtures against some of the well supported teams, there was either a larger or very similar attendance at Hillsborough. Nothing to suggest that it couldnt be the same in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Football is a totally different beast today. At least in 1985 those people who went were real football fans. I get the impression now that a lot are treating it as a "tourist" day out. How else do you explain West Ham (a similar sized club to us) getting over 50,000 crowds ? They used to get similar crowds to us, they haven't won anything (I don't think) since 1980 and are never likely to (like us). I'm not going to go over it again but our crowds are remarkable over the last 20 years and we would easily sell out in the PL even if the ground held 40,000. Our fans are at least as passionate as West Ham and leicester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleford Owl Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 52 minutes ago, Bulldog said: I've never aspired to the comments "If we were in the premier league we'd easily average 30k" Why? we haven't for over 50 years! It's easier than ever to not go to a game and just watch it on a stream (legal or otherwise). We even had people predicting a 30k plus crowd for the L**ds game if it was cheaper. It's just not going to happen. United managed it once and will probably this season. So yes, of course we would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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