TheEnchanter Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Hamburg fans don't rate him much from looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, SiJ said: Would love to get Hector back, but 5 million is excessive imo. Tbf, we have found a bit of a gem in Borner (time will tell), so bringing in Bates as an understudy/competition (for a smaller fee) might make sense. When I see some of the figures banded about £5m seems like loose change. But can see point of not wanting to blow the budget over 1 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 minute ago, TheEnchanter said: Hamburg fans don't rate him much from looking. That’s fine he’ll be reyt for the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Hamburg fans don't rate him much from looking. You went to the effort of translating one of their forums? Fair play. "Ya! Herr Bates ist nicht gut!" Has been about two decades since I did German at GCSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Hamburg fans don't rate him much from looking. Hamburg haven't rated anyone since Keegan left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Owlett Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: Any of our resident SPL fans able to tell us if he’s any good? Brought on by Warburton who favoured youth at Rangers but not rated by Caixinha (like that means anything). Decided to leave on a free to Hamburg to mixed reaction from Rangers fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 37 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Master Bates? It'll be Roger the cabin boy next 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 "I was a bit surprised when I saw Bates market value. I think here, the experts in this forum rough next to it because Bates really did not offer much in the last year. He has a stable tackle and an average positional play. In contrast, he has extreme shortcomings: speed, technique, header behavior. He played too many fouls in my eyes. Some points could be less critical if you see him as a potential talented person. But somewhere you have to be honest, if just basic footballing skills are missing. That does not mean that he can not be a second-division professional, and maybe he even has potential for more, if he's really fine-tuning his few strengths" "Is this wishful thinking or is there more to it?" " Change today? I do not get my wheelbarrow so fast. The pearl" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Don’t particularly rate him - unless we’re going to splash out on Hector I wouldn’t be in a rush to spend a big sum on a centre half, including Bates or McKenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SiJ said: You went to the effort of translating one of their forums? Fair play. "Ya! Herr Bates ist nicht gut!" Has been about two decades since I did German at GCSE. Google mobile auto translates. Im also not happy with what ive found and would much rather us spend that bit extra and get a proven Michael Hector. Its these margins that can be the difference come the end. Edited August 8, 2019 by TheEnchanter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HillsboroughOwlNI Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 We have really become a squad of innuendo- Master Bates a Luongo Boner... Any other top notch signings we could make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: Blaster Bates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, stocksyuto said: On paper yea 22 year old cost less better future resale value . But we know what we are getting with hector If we haven’t had problems I’d be saying sign Hector. But this is the method we now need to take to ensure we don’t end up with embargo’s again. Signing young and cheap and sell high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, cowl said: Not even been in the squad for Hamburg's first two league games - is he injured? Yes. He was injured right at the end of last season, and should be just about back training now, but probably not ready fro matches. Haven't seen masses of him since he left Scotland. He's big and quick. A combination that could see him become a real player imo. In Scotland he was a little naive at times, and Rangers fan's are not the most forgiving folk, especially given how superior Celtic have been. Moving to Germany seems to have helped him. He's seemed more consistent and smarter, tho part of that will just be growing up and getting games. Very few center backs are the real deal at 21-22. His international performances were very respectable. Did nothing wrong and is likely to be in future squads as a result. To me, he'd be a good gamble. Significantly cheaper than proven options like Hector or McKenna, but he does have the attributes to be a top player. He just needs the right coaching. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: "I was a bit surprised when I saw Bates market value. I think here, the experts in this forum rough next to it because Bates really did not offer much in the last year. He has a stable tackle and an average positional play. In contrast, he has extreme shortcomings: speed, technique, header behavior. He played too many fouls in my eyes. Some points could be less critical if you see him as a potential talented person. But somewhere you have to be honest, if just basic footballing skills are missing. That does not mean that he can not be a second-division professional, and maybe he even has potential for more, if he's really fine-tuning his few strengths" "Is this wishful thinking or is there more to it?" " Change today? I do not get my wheelbarrow so fast. The pearl" should pay the 5 mill for Hector,we know he is decent,chepies and loans will win nowt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, 1993swfc said: If we haven’t had problems I’d be saying sign Hector. But this is the method we now need to take to ensure we don’t end up with embargo’s again. Signing young and cheap and sell high. signing young and cheap and sell high,give me an example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Change today? I do not get my wheelbarrow so fast. The pearl" Just booked in tattoo shop for that on my back tomorrow morning...... Should have seen his face! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Stork Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, HillsboroughOwlNI said: We have really become a squad of innuendo- Master Bates a Luongo Boner... Any other top notch signings we could make? Massimo, Boner, Bates. Our team sheets are gonna be interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, HillsboroughOwlNI said: We have really become a squad of innuendo- Master Bates a Luongo Boner... Any other top notch signings we could make? We need Minge from Dresden as manager. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brando17 said: signing young and cheap and sell high,give me an example Lucas Joao signed for us at 21 for around a couple million. Moved him on other day for £5m-£7m. Good business 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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