nevthelodgemoorowl Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I think Wim Jonk had a pay as you play deal... £1,600,000 per game I think it was 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I’d keep him, we need more centre mids of that quality. But there’s no way we can offer him another contract on the same money. Can’t see another club offering him a big contract when he hasn’t played for 18 months, is 31 and there’s no guarantee he’ll be the same player. So think we should give him pre-season, and if he gets through that, a one year deal on reduced wages with an appearance bonus. If he wouldn’t accept that then we don’t have a choice he’d have to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Dawson Iorfa Lees Hector Palmer Joey Onomah Bannan Boyd Hooper Fletcher I think will be the side, FF, Matias, Joao, Lee on bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, S26 Owl said: Keep him as far away from Ben Pearson as possible. I don't see any harm in giving him the 2 final games, a proper pre season and playing the pre season games then the contract offer can be discussed if he gets through it Give Sam special Pearson duties ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Peacenocchio said: Preston is a fair way from QPR. Perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, RichSheffWeds said: Out for 2 years but give him a new contract? You think he can sustain a season playing week in, week out when this league puts bigger demands on player fitness with modern tactics, pressing etc? Pay as you play would be the only deal any sane offer the club should consider. Maybe he was only out for so long because he was one of the players who were forced to play while still injured / not fully fit. Had his injuries been managed properly in the first place and he had been allowed the correct rehabilitation then he may not have been out for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: I’d keep him, we need more centre mids of that quality. But there’s no way we can offer him another contract on the same money. Can’t see another club offering him a big contract when he hasn’t played for 18 months, is 31 and there’s no guarantee he’ll be the same player. So think we should give him pre-season, and if he gets through that, a one year deal on reduced wages with an appearance bonus. If he wouldn’t accept that then we don’t have a choice he’d have to go Is Lee on big money, then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Miffed said: Maybe he was only out for so long because he was one of the players who were forced to play while still injured / not fully fit. Had his injuries been managed properly in the first place and he had been allowed the correct rehabilitation then he may not have been out for so long. No one is forced to play through injury, Just ask Almen Abdi ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Is Lee on big money, then? He signed a new contract when Carlos was manager, which I'd bet pushed his earnings to around 25k per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Is Lee on big money, then? No idea. But even if it’s 15-20k that’s too much to pay out if he can’t play. Being realistic, it would be worth the risk if whatever he’s on is halved with the oppprtunity to make the rest back in appearance fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, steveger said: i wouldn't offer him nothing apart from a pay as you play deal.....we don't know if the lad can still do it for us Do people actually still think these genuinely exist? I think Lee will get a one year deal, Bruce said he's been impressed with him in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S26 Owl Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: No idea. But even if it’s 15-20k that’s too much to pay out if he can’t play. Being realistic, it would be worth the risk if whatever he’s on is halved with the oppprtunity to make the rest back in appearance fees After being out for so long and this being the biggest club he could play at in his current situation I'd suspect he'd accept anything. The best possible option for both parties is a cheap 1 year deal so he can prove his fitness with a clause that increases wage and length if he completes a certain number of appearances 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: No idea. But even if it’s 15-20k that’s too much to pay out if he can’t play. Being realistic, it would be worth the risk if whatever he’s on is halved with the oppprtunity to make the rest back in appearance fees If he can't play, then anything would be too much. However, if he's genuinely nearing match fitness and his injury woes are behind him, then we have one of the best midfielders in this division on our books. I'd like to think he'll feel some loyalty to the club and will be willing to accept a contract which reflects his recent availability for us, but we have to make sure our offer doesn't lead to him walking away and signing for another Championship club. I assume that if we're making him an offer then we must be pretty confident that he's fully recovered, and it would be gutting to see him fit and firing again for one of our rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Be great to have him back but surely he will be released at the end of the season. I love him and think if it wasn’t for injuries he would be a Premiership player by now but we can’t afford to have him out for the majority of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 You only have to look at Alan Judge to see what can happen when a player is out with a long term injury. A few seasons ago he was one of the stand out players in the division, since returning from his injury problems however he's been a shadow of his former self and has recently committed his long-term future to Ipswich. Whether we offer Lee a deal or not, he'll get an offer elsewhere although I'd doubt whether the terms he'd get anywhere else will be as good as the deal he's had at Hillsborough over the last few seasons. I think the chances of him accepting pay as you play are slim but the only deal I'd be tempted to give him would be 12 months on reduced wages. If after those 12 months he's played a certain amount of games, I'd then give him an option to extend for a further 12 months on his previous wage at Wednesday. I'm not sure he'll get a better offer than that anywhere else, at least not in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: If he can't play, then anything would be too much. However, if he's genuinely nearing match fitness and his injury woes are behind him, then we have one of the best midfielders in this division on our books. I'd like to think he'll feel some loyalty to the club and will be willing to accept a contract which reflects his recent availability for us, but we have to make sure our offer doesn't lead to him walking away and signing for another Championship club. I assume that if we're making him an offer then we must be pretty confident that he's fully recovered, and it would be gutting to see him fit and firing again for one of our rivals. Thing is, we’ll be making an assessment on whether he’s over his injuries. If he isn’t, he’ll be gone. If he is, it’s still a risk to us as the assessment could turn out wrong or he might not be the same player. On that basis, the wages need to be lower to reflect the risk and can be topped up by the appearance fee. Nobody else in the championship is going to come in and offer him more than that as they won’t want to take the risk. It’s an even bigger risk for another club than it is for us as at least we have the full history of his injuries. All round, the best thing for him and us is for him to stay but on less money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I really hope he can get back to how he was 2 years ago. It’d cost millions to get a player like that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, LondonOwl313 said: Thing is, we’ll be making an assessment on whether he’s over his injuries. If he isn’t, he’ll be gone. If he is, it’s still a risk to us as the assessment could turn out wrong or he might not be the same player. On that basis, the wages need to be lower to reflect the risk and can be topped up by the appearance fee. Nobody else in the championship is going to come in and offer him more than that as they won’t want to take the risk. It’s an even bigger risk for another club than it is for us as at least we have the full history of his injuries. All round, the best thing for him and us is for him to stay but on less money I tend to agree. It's just my heart ruling my head, I'm sure, but there's that nagging doubt that we'll have paid him throughout his injury then he goes elsewhere and is back to his swashbuckling best whilst we look on enviously from the sidelines. It'd just be so Wednesday, wouldn't it? Either way, I trust Bruce and his team to make the right call based on what they've seen of him in training in recent months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 41 minutes ago, Kanye West said: Do people actually still think these genuinely exist? I think Lee will get a one year deal, Bruce said he's been impressed with him in training. To be honest with you they probably don't in the higher divisions, you don't hear about them any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said: He signed a new contract when Carlos was manager, which I'd bet pushed his earnings to around 25k per week. He signed just before Carlos, Can still remember the photo with Lee and Gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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