Belfast Owl 2 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Winnall and Fletcher, oh joy of joys Let’s hope Bruce has identified a new striker, and our useless recruitment team, can get the deal over the line Will you support any new player that comes in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Agree with the folks saying we don’t engineer enough chances, but I’d also throw in that the reason Joao tends to blow hot & cold is he makes his own. About 70% of his goals are effectively solo efforts, or so it often seems to me. Nobody’s gonna score every time but his conversion rate is pretty damn good for the way he plays, often basically going it alone and carving something out of nothing. Other than FF we haven’t got anyone else up top who can do that - every other striker on our books needs it serving up on a silver platter to stand even a 15% change of hitting the onion bag. That used to be standard for ‘target men’, but it’s just not enough in the modern game - it’s old-fashioned centre forwarding, from back in the days of end-to-end, 100mph British ‘park football’ with a decent chance every other attack (god I miss that). Pointless having three or four ‘six yard box snipers’ on the books when we’ve barely worked a dozen close-range openings since Carlos came in. The whole culture of the game has changed massively in 10-15 short years, for better or worse (mostly worse) - nowadays it’s far more like chess; your ‘attack’ starts way back in defence, and unless you’ve got a clear plan for the next six moves, you’re probably not getting past halfway. Gi’ Hungry Hungry Hippos back FFS Edited January 13, 2019 by Mr. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Will you support any new player that comes in? All of them, until we can find better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Bringing Nuhiu on ahead of Winnall yesterday was a terrible decision. Hopefully it won’t take the new management team long to realise that Nuhiu offers next to nothing and Winnall should be ahead of him in the pecking order. Edited January 13, 2019 by WalthamOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Not a massive fan of Winnall as a footballer to be honest, his second touch is always a tackle but he does seem to know where the net is based on his record at previous club. Might be time to give him a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: Bringing Nuhiu on ahead of Winnall yesterday was a terrible decision. Hopefully it won’t take the new management team long to realise that Nuhiu offers next to nothing and Winnall should be ahead of him in the pecking order. Nuhiu needs a rocket up his arsehole. I'm sorry, but he does. Showed last season what he's capable of for the first time in years. I'd expect greater motivation from any player than to simply earn a new contract - if that's all it was. He needs to grab himself by the nutsack and cause himself some pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 hours ago, A12owl said: Have we got a youngster who could play alongside Fletcher/Winnal as a 2 up front? Single striker isn't working What about Borukov? There are plenty of under 20 year olds playing in the premiership so age shouldn't be the problem . Youngsters will have no fear and looking to progress through the ranks to the first team. They should be full of energy and enthusiasm. Providing the support from midfield or wingers/full backs is there. Surely worth a try . Not against Luton but Wigan at home. Might just give the current lot a kick up the behind........or perhaps not. Hirst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 8 hours ago, MysticOwl said: The lad needs a run of games. He has goals in him but needs a run of form to gain confidence. We were 2-0 down vs Hull and our answer was to bring on Nuhiu. We all knew this wasnt going to change anything. If Winnall needs games to be match ready, then why not chuck him on for 40 minutes when we were 2-0 down instead of Nuhiu? He cant get match ready if we dont play him. Not sure I agree. Have seen nothing since he came back to show he can start for us. The problem is that although I like Winnall I don’t see him being able to play as a loan striker for us. Does he play wide right? Can he play in the Reach role with Adam our wide? Maybe we need to test one of these out in the Luton game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 11 hours ago, S36 OWL said: Our top scorer has 8 goals. There lies our problem . but how much is down to lack of quality supply?, and how much down to lack of quality finishers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 14 hours ago, S36 OWL said: Our top scorer has 8 goals. There lies our problem . Joao 8 from 12 starts Reach from midfield 7 from 26 starts. Both reasonable stats. Then we hit problems... Fletcher 4 from 16 starts Nuhiu 2 from 12 starts Matias 4 from 15 starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 9 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: Bringing Nuhiu on ahead of Winnall yesterday was a terrible decision. Hopefully it won’t take the new management team long to realise that Nuhiu offers next to nothing and Winnall should be ahead of him in the pecking order. Err hang on a minute, with Winnall still recovering from long term injury, and the game effectively lost, it was the right call for me. Winnall is being eased back after an injury that would have ended his career a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Blatter said: Err hang on a minute, with Winnall still recovering from long term injury, and the game effectively lost, it was the right call for me. Winnall is being eased back after an injury that would have ended his career a few years ago. We where 2v0 down at the time Nuhiu came on, if we had got a quick goal you never know what could have happened. Nuhiu offers next to nothing, the only time he did was when he wanted to earn a new contract. The only way Winnall will get match fit is by playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPPS_S.W.F.C Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 When Winnall is a bit fitter,then him Ff and Joao for me,up top goals in there with them 3,the rest of our fowards can do one not prolific enough,and shame to say Rhodes had his chance dont think he'll make it here now... UTO FTFB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Everyone was loving Fletcher after the Birmingham game. Was everywhere and a constant thorn in Birminghams players He does add more than just goals when he's on it. But it's obvious we need goals from somewhere. We must be able to get goals from one of our 5 or 6 strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Will you support any new player that comes in? Of course so, I’m a member of The National Truss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lythamowl Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 we keep nuhiu and send rhodes out on loan. only at sheffield wednesday...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: We where 2v0 down at the time Nuhiu came on, if we had got a quick goal you never know what could have happened. Nuhiu offers next to nothing, the only time he did was when he wanted to earn a new contract. The only way Winnall will get match fit is by playing. Agree with what you say about Nuhiu’s form, but it’s a long long time since Wednesday came back from 2-0 down to win a game. Don’t forget Joao Forestieri, Hooper are all injured and we need Winnall’s recovery carefully managed. We have a very poor record of injury ‘setbacks’ in the last 3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Blatter said: Err hang on a minute, with Winnall still recovering from long term injury, and the game effectively lost, it was the right call for me. Winnall is being eased back after an injury that would have ended his career a few years ago. Why shouldn't Winnall have managed 35 minutes when he played 10 minutes at WBA, and half an hour against Luton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 14 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: Bringing Nuhiu on ahead of Winnall yesterday was a terrible decision. Hopefully it won’t take the new management team long to realise that Nuhiu offers next to nothing and Winnall should be ahead of him in the pecking order. by a feckin mile Nuhui league 1 at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Lythamowl said: we keep nuhiu and send rhodes out on loan. only at sheffield wednesday...... frightening really, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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