shandypants Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, owlsdreamer said: The fact is that some matches I can forget for vast portions of the game that he is actually on the field. On saying that he did a lot better against Preston That’s the nature of the “water carrier’s” role. You don’t really notice such a player until he makes a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 hours ago, shandypants said: I agree, however, Bannan will offer more support than Joao and Mattias and arguably more than Reach. Its a bit of a trade off isn’t it? At the start of the season and in particular during our brief good run, Matias and Joao were playing wide and they worked incredibly hard and would be back in the fullback positions helping out and winning the ball, no idea what happened to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon78 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 8 hours ago, casbahowl said: It’s glaringly obvious that our main problem positions are both full backs, right back more so. The new manager could do a lot worse (Palmer) than to give Joey a try there. He has the physical attributes to get up and down the pitch, can cross the ball and can certainly put in a tackle. Well worth a punt good shout that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: Let's see how the new manager sets up and what he gets out of him. Same goes for a lot of the lads. I agree with this. Clean slate for everyone and hopefully Bruce (or whoever) can get the best out of what we have. I would add however that that past performances highlight to me he isn't up to the required standard. Doesn’t mean that can’t change. Over to Joey and a heck of a lot of other players to put in better performances and show they deserve to wear the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, shandypants said: That’s the nature of the “water carrier’s” role. You don’t really notice such a player until he makes a mistake. No you notice them if they do their job. Or I personally do anyway. The times you don’t remember them is when they don’t touch the ball, closw the spaces, tackle or intercept. Then you think or say why is that space opening up time and time again, then you remember player x is on the pitch. Not specifically on about Joey here. Just that midfield role in general. Just to add. The only person that shouldn’t be noticed is the ref. Everyone else on the pitch you notice their job. Edited December 24, 2018 by jonesy87shef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettleForADraw Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just like Fox i'm afraid, easy scapegoat. Both have been up there with our most consistent performers since the united game IMO. Thought they were both brilliant Saturday. The balls Fox was putting in the box especially in the second half were crying out for Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 21 hours ago, meggoisgod said: You cannot fault his effort, think this formation would be great for him Westwood Palmer. Lees. Hector. Penney Hutchinson. Joey. Forestieri. Bannan. Reach Joao Joey can tear about breaking things up with Hutch and Bannan will finally get bloody forward. Thats what I would play with the players we have. 2 decent full backs turns that into a very good team at this level. Fletcher/joao/winnall for the striker role or joao could play one of the wide forward roles either. Bannan and onomah competing for the forward central role and Matias is a useful sub or could replace FF if he leaves in jan. hutch and pelupessy in front of the back four would make us a lot more solid. Both are good enough on the ball to play it easy and let bannan/onomah have the ball further up the pitch where I want to see them and not coming back in between the 2 centre backs to look for the ball and leaving us totally disjointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 8 hours ago, casbahowl said: It’s glaringly obvious that our main problem positions are both full backs, right back more so. The new manager could do a lot worse (Palmer) than to give Joey a try there. He has the physical attributes to get up and down the pitch, can cross the ball and can certainly put in a tackle. Well worth a punt Firstly, Palmer has been steady recently and secondly, Pelupessy will never be a fullback whilever he has a hole is his arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, shandypants said: Firstly, Palmer has been steady recently and secondly, Pelupessy will never be a fullback whilever he has a hole is his arse. Exactly the same can be said about Palmer ...... he’s beyond atrocious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 23/12/2018 at 14:09, uɐıɹɐqɯıɹ⅁ said: Joey and Hutch holding, Bannan further up as AM is my wish. ban bannan from our half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, shandypants said: Firstly, Palmer has been steady recently and secondly, Pelupessy will never be a fullback whilever he has a hole is his arse. 33 minutes ago, casbahowl said: Exactly the same can be said about Palmer ...... he’s beyond atrocious there's one or two might be at chesterfield in the future IF they don't drastically buck their ideas up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, shandypants said: Firstly, Palmer has been steady recently and secondly, Pelupessy will never be a fullback whilever he has a hole is his arse. Why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, hugeowl said: Why ? Because he doesn’t possess the attributes required to be a fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 hours ago, shandypants said: Firstly, Palmer has been steady recently and secondly, Pelupessy will never be a fullback whilever he has a hole is his arse. Interesting your comparison here S/P Palmer -Sulky Lazy "buckshee" Player akin to a British Leyland assembly worker on a Friday afternoon shift ... Pelupessy - what he lack's in skill (that's with a capital L) He more than makes up with energy and team ethos and will to win ... A real shame Jeff Goldblums "Fly Morping Machine" didn't work .. We could have had a player between them ?.. Our new manager has a great deal of sorting out to do ... Starting by clearing the decks of the all the players who can't and won't play for our club .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 23/12/2018 at 14:08, Bolsterstone Owl said: 11 passionate, motivated players will always do better than 11 prima donnas. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 give me a passionate joey over a big time Charlie like nuhiu who thinks the club owe him something anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 58 minutes ago, shandypants said: Because he doesn’t possess the attributes required to be a fullback. What attributes does a fullback need that he does not possess ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 23/12/2018 at 15:07, crookesowl said: Played well. He needs to kick on now and do a bit more than just look for Bannan. He's wasn't so that on Saturday was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Bannans best season was his first season here when he played left midfield and tucked inside and very rarely was tracked by the winger in doing this. Lee and Hutchinson were the central pair and hence why we was a lot less lightweight than we currently are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 3 hours ago, dnhc said: ban bannan from our half. I've joked a few times that our bench should draw an imaginary line and shoot his legs with a plastic pellet gun if he ever comes back past it or maybe chain him up like a dog to the opposition's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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