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Anyone could have got Brentford and Reading tickets....not exactly a closed shop really

 

Tickets and travel alone for me and our young un to go to these 2 cost me approx £125+ and they are loooooong days, but when it comes to Derby, Forest, Villa, Pigs etc we are always 9am first day of sales as it should be

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15 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said:

Loyalty reaps the rewards. As it should.

 

The England supporters club have a caps system, similar to the TPP one. It used to be 2 caps for an away match and one for a home match.

The FA, in their infinite wisdom, changed it to 2 caps for a home game once. Just to fill & pay for the new Wembley. This didn't last long.

Ultimately, this meant that the most loyal, travelling away, got more caps & better access to tickets. Even more important when it came to tournament tickets.

It wasn't possible to use or swap ID's either, as away match tickets always had to be collected in person, with ID, at a hotel in the away city.

We went to every home & away qualifier, plus friendlies, in the run up to France 2016, which guaranteed us tournament tickets. Pity we were shyte & went out to Iceland! Likewise with Brazil in 2014.

Never had any intention of going to Russia before we did, but probably spent less buying tickets on the street there, than we would have going to all the qualifiers. Bit ironic really. Saved £70 membership & a load of hassle & travel for 2 years, but still ended up at the finals. 

 

Basically, anybody following Wednesday home & away, midweek and weekend deserves first dibs on any tickets. Especially in these days of TV coverage where matches are played at much more random & awkward times.

 

And as ever what about the 20 year old 2nd year st holder with no commitments and oodles of spare cash to waste on Football because Mumsie and Daddy pay all his expenses and subsequently has all the points necessary against a 30 year st holder on minimum wage that can maybe afford the odd away game except he cant because he cant get a ticket for the less expensive games ( travel costs etc ) wheres his loyalty being rewarded ? ( not me by the way before that accusation is thrown ) 

A small amount put to general sale leaving the vast bulk in the points system would be fair to everyone imo

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1 hour ago, danblakemore said:

So you could buy a child's ticket for a match like reading away, not go and get 10 points... Wow. 

 

Sounds like the system works a treat then! 

Lots did this for Sunderland in the cup. £4 I think it was for a child’s ticket  

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44 minutes ago, handworth52 said:

stop making excuses up ,ie leeds away ,reading away you could have all got tickets for that , go to cup games to gain points then your points will soon start going up , there will be other games what wont sell out ie Bristol city . the points system aint perfect but its pretty much the fairest system , only thing what I think may be fair is have a much wider points gap for certain away tickets . ie 9am Monday 650 points 2pm 600 points tues 9am 550 points that way some can get tickets easier but also protecting the ones what attend cup matches and go to at least 60% of away games . 

Nobody needs an excuse to go...or not to go to a football match handsworth.

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It would be the fairest way to do it however people have started buying tickets for games they aren’t even going to go to if tickets are cheap enough. Also there has been a massive increase on people giving their IDs away on Facebook twitter etc to ensure they are

getting points.

 

The club would never do it but the only way to stop it is to do what Englandfans do. 

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7 minutes ago, Costello 77 said:

Nobody needs an excuse to go...or not to go to a football match handsworth.

if fans want to go to away games there are plenty of chances to go the Brentford game didn't sell out until general sale same leeds,reading  so supporters need to go to them games to build points up, then they get chance like me to go to yer villas forest,derby ,pigs etc , 

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1 minute ago, handworth52 said:

if fans want to go to away games there are plenty of chances to go the Brentford game didn't sell out until general sale same leeds,reading  so supporters need to go to them games to build points up, then they get chance like me to go to yer villas forest,derby ,pigs etc , 

I know that you've had tickets on viagogo.

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5 hours ago, Holmowl said:

 

I did it v Forest in the 2-1 Abdi cracker game.

 

When Abdi scored a Forest Dad stood up (in the kids zone) and reeled off 20 seconds of angry filth. 

Sharpens your football knowledge too always do background revision prior to games ..

Many times I've been chatted up by a chap whilst holding my "chap" in the "home" end latrines ...

had a few close shaves mind ..

Tend to reference older players who played for their team who were more famous  and pronouncable without giving away the Sheffield accent !!!!!WTF:

 

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30 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said:

And as ever what about the 20 year old 2nd year st holder with no commitments and oodles of spare cash to waste on Football because Mumsie and Daddy pay all his expenses and subsequently has all the points necessary against a 30 year st holder on minimum wage that can maybe afford the odd away game except he cant because he cant get a ticket for the less expensive games ( travel costs etc ) wheres his loyalty being rewarded ? ( not me by the way before that accusation is thrown ) 

A small amount put to general sale leaving the vast bulk in the points system would be fair to everyone imo

 

If the 20 year old is going to Millwall / Ipswich on a Tuesday night, he's earned his points, regardless of who pays his expenses.

The 30 year ST holder can't afford to go. That's not the fault of the TPP system.

How do you decide what's fair in the general sale? The 30 year ST holder may still never get a ticket. The FA used to ballot supporters on lower caps, who didn't get first dibs, but people still moaned who missed out. Those who travelled least but turned out for big, important games usually missed out. Perfectly fair.

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It is only fair I guess! The other year I was ten points short of going to Rotherham in the cup so I bought a ticket for QPR Away so I got my ten points and then when I had my Rotherham ticket I returned the Qpr one... genius. There’s always a way! :biggrin:

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8 hours ago, danblakemore said:

I was wondering if it was only me that starts to see away games as something I might not get to anymore due to ticketing structures?

 

Villa away is the latest example of how many points you need to get a ticket and how if your not a multi-year season ticket holder with numourus away points you have virtually no chance of going. 

 

What seems to be the modern trend of being able to go for some one like me (1 year season ticket holder) Is to borrow someone else's points, and by you going, you actually give them more points, thereby enhancing the closed shop...

 

I don't know the answer, but it's a shame that many fans might not be able to get to many away matches soon.

 

Sorry, sounds a bit negative... I'm not really negative lol

 

You got a lot of negs for that post, which I thought was very valid.

 

Whilst I agree that season ticket holders with priority points should get first dibs, I remember just turning up at away matches and paying on the gate. If the away end was full, they'd fit you in somewhere.

 

Progress eh?

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1 hour ago, The only way is S6 said:

Loyalty reaps the rewards. As it should.

 

The England supporters club have a caps system, similar to the TPP one. It used to be 2 caps for an away match and one for a home match.

The FA, in their infinite wisdom, changed it to 2 caps for a home game once. Just to fill & pay for the new Wembley. This didn't last long.

Ultimately, this meant that the most loyal, travelling away, got more caps & better access to tickets. Even more important when it came to tournament tickets.

It wasn't possible to use or swap ID's either, as away match tickets always had to be collected in person, with ID, at a hotel in the away city.

We went to every home & away qualifier, plus friendlies, in the run up to France 2016, which guaranteed us tournament tickets. Pity we were shyte & went out to Iceland! Likewise with Brazil in 2014.

Never had any intention of going to Russia before we did, but probably spent less buying tickets on the street there, than we would have going to all the qualifiers. Bit ironic really. Saved £70 membership & a load of hassle & travel for 2 years, but still ended up at the finals. 

 

Basically, anybody following Wednesday home & away, midweek and weekend deserves first dibs on any tickets. Especially in these days of TV coverage where matches are played at much more random & awkward times.

 

 

Also did the England membership and home and away games to secure a trip to France 16. Remember though so many go to the highest caps and some tickets are set aside for a ballot

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